Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

lists.freebsd.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

31–40 of 110 posts

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#31

Post by loeg »

shassard wrote: post #10
stock_toaster wrote: post #5

Anyone know if this release also includes the recently[1] added in-kernel wireguard? [1]: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/base?view=revision&revision=36816...

I tried adding the wireguard module to my loader.conf this morning and my VM bombed horribly on reboot. I'm not sure if it's some ordering issue or something else, but use some caution when doing this.

There's not a ton of reason to load it in loader.conf (which is the bootloader configuration), by the way. The recommended location would be rc.conf kld_list, which is after userspace starts. loader.conf is only really needed for hardware drivers needed to load the operating system from storage devices (and most such drivers are already built in to the kernel).

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#32

Post by andoriyu »

gautamcgoel wrote: post #30

I wish FreeBSD booted faster. I recall it took nearly a minute from turning my machine on (with an SSD and a recent Intel i5 processor) before I was prompted for my login credentials. It's little things like that which make the system feel a bit dated, at least to someone like me who is an outsider to FreeBSD but has used Linux for a decade. I also wished FreeBSD needed less configuration to use as a desktop (see htt…

> Also, does Zoom work on FreeBSD?

I used Zoom on FreeBSD. By use I mean I was able to be in a meeting, see screen share, share my screen, but I had to dial in for audio and never tried webcam.

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#33

Post by bombcar »

codetrotter wrote: post #3

Is OpenZFS 2.0 in base in this snapshot? Edit: It is! neat! # uname -a FreeBSD freebsd 13.0-BETA1 FreeBSD 13.0-BETA1 #0 releng/13.0-n244471-638e531019f: Fri Feb 5 17:12:07 UTC 2021 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC arm64 # zfs version zfs-2.0.0-FreeBSD_gf11b09dec zfs-kmod-2.0.0-FreeBSD_gf11b09dec

What does 2.0 bring us?

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#34

Post by cperciva »

drewg123 wrote: post #22
jiggawatts wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I haven't quite understood is why Netflix even bothers to encrypt the video streams. It seems like a waste of effort, since Netflix isn't exactly serving content that would qualify as "secret". There's not even any porn on there, so it's not the biggest concern if someone were to find out what some people were watching. This data is being collected anyway via endpoint technologies like Samsung's Automated C…

"This helps protect member privacy, particularly when the network is insecure — ensuring that our members are safe from eavesdropping by anyone who might want to record their viewing habits." from https://netflixtechblog.com/protecting-netflix-viewing-priva...

Come on Drew, you know as well as I do that media can be unmasked via side channels if an attacker really cares.

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#35

Post by mapgrep »

gautamcgoel wrote: post #30

I wish FreeBSD booted faster. I recall it took nearly a minute from turning my machine on (with an SSD and a recent Intel i5 processor) before I was prompted for my login credentials. It's little things like that which make the system feel a bit dated, at least to someone like me who is an outsider to FreeBSD but has used Linux for a decade. I also wished FreeBSD needed less configuration to use as a desktop (see htt…

One key impetus for Linux moving to systemd was faster boot time, parallelizing init tasks. Is FreeBSD looking at moving beyond traditional rc script boot?

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#36

Post by toast0 »

gautamcgoel wrote: post #30

I wish FreeBSD booted faster. I recall it took nearly a minute from turning my machine on (with an SSD and a recent Intel i5 processor) before I was prompted for my login credentials. It's little things like that which make the system feel a bit dated, at least to someone like me who is an outsider to FreeBSD but has used Linux for a decade. I also wished FreeBSD needed less configuration to use as a desktop (see htt…

The default bootloader delay is 10 seconds; you can probably tune that to one or zero, with autoboot_delay="1" in /boot/loader.conf

Otherwise, I'm not aware of any easy wins (unless you're running 10.1 or older, in which case set hw.memtest.tests="0" to disable the boot time memory test which is very time consuming if you have a lot of ram and doesn't seem to be very useful; it was disabled in 10.2 and later).

If you can see what steps are particularly slow, some of them might be influenced to be a bit faster (eg, if it's waiting on usb scan to mount disks, you can make that time out sooner if it's not necessary on your system; you may be able to do background dhcp instead of synchronous dhcp, etc). But I think someone could spend some real time making it faster to the benefit of those who boot often.

Edit: following in the footsteps of cperciva's work; especially the profiling setup.

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#37

Post by fis »

drewg123 wrote: post #22
jiggawatts wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One thing I haven't quite understood is why Netflix even bothers to encrypt the video streams. It seems like a waste of effort, since Netflix isn't exactly serving content that would qualify as "secret". There's not even any porn on there, so it's not the biggest concern if someone were to find out what some people were watching. This data is being collected anyway via endpoint technologies like Samsung's Automated C…

"This helps protect member privacy, particularly when the network is insecure — ensuring that our members are safe from eavesdropping by anyone who might want to record their viewing habits." from https://netflixtechblog.com/protecting-netflix-viewing-priva...

The parent mentioned "This data is being collected anyway via endpoint technologies like Samsung's Automated Content Recognition (ACR)". If that's true then the encryption isn't really helping.

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#38

Post by cperciva »

gautamcgoel wrote: post #30

I wish FreeBSD booted faster. I recall it took nearly a minute from turning my machine on (with an SSD and a recent Intel i5 processor) before I was prompted for my login credentials. It's little things like that which make the system feel a bit dated, at least to someone like me who is an outsider to FreeBSD but has used Linux for a decade. I also wished FreeBSD needed less configuration to use as a desktop (see htt…

Have you tried profiling the FreeBSD boot (https://papers.freebsd.org/2018/bsdcan/percival-profiling_th...) to see where the time is going?

I made some significant speedups a couple years ago, but I'm sure there's still room for further improvements, especially if you have hardware which I didn't test with.

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#39

Post by qwantim1 »

Is FreeBSD still used to as great of an extent in US Government / Military / Intelligence as it used to be?

There seemed to be some talk of Linux I noticed in past years, and I’ve been thinking about trying to out again, but I’d feel better if I knew that it was still well-used.

Re: FreeBSD 13.0 Beta1 Now Available

#40

Post by codetrotter »

bombcar wrote: post #33
codetrotter wrote: post #3

Is OpenZFS 2.0 in base in this snapshot? Edit: It is! neat! # uname -a FreeBSD freebsd 13.0-BETA1 FreeBSD 13.0-BETA1 #0 releng/13.0-n244471-638e531019f: Fri Feb 5 17:12:07 UTC 2021 root@releng1.nyi.freebsd.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/arm64.aarch64/sys/GENERIC arm64 # zfs version zfs-2.0.0-FreeBSD_gf11b09dec zfs-kmod-2.0.0-FreeBSD_gf11b09dec

What does 2.0 bring us?

Native ZFS encryption among other things

Edit: Compared to the version of ZFS that was in base FreeBSD 12.x I mean

Post reply on HN