Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper • Hacker News Board

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by vmception » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 12:59 AM UTC

valentinemsmith wrote: post #9

Were small-town papers just as toxic, or is it just my community here in SF? In the last month, on NextDoor, they doxxed and banded together to get the mentally-challenged skateboarder who’s been my neighborhood for years, and had him arrested because a user felt threatened by him standing around the neighborhood shouting obscenities during manic episodes. (He’s now in jail and this NextDoor thread is trying to make…

San Francisco NextDoor is a mad house and should be nuked from orbit.

It is a mixture of excessive empathy resulting in half measures that just enable destructive behaviors, and on the other side is those trying to start a pogrom against the visibly unhoused and mentally challenged!

There’s nothing in between!

Try to point out something from how any other city creates a functioning society and you’ll get reported, your post censored in that process, and booted off the platform! I don't have any suggestions for that city, in case you were looking for one to determine if I was someone you wanted to listen to or invalidate.

That place is Detroit West get out if you can. They always wanted you to leave, and artists will be able to afford it again just like they wished! Detroit has artists too.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by zbowling » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:00 AM UTC

valentinemsmith wrote: post #9

Were small-town papers just as toxic, or is it just my community here in SF? In the last month, on NextDoor, they doxxed and banded together to get the mentally-challenged skateboarder who’s been my neighborhood for years, and had him arrested because a user felt threatened by him standing around the neighborhood shouting obscenities during manic episodes. (He’s now in jail and this NextDoor thread is trying to make…

Nextdoor is a cesspool of NIMBYs.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by peteretep » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:08 AM UTC

barney54 wrote: post #13

valentinemsmith wrote: post #9

Were small-town papers just as toxic, or is it just my community here in SF? In the last month, on NextDoor, they doxxed and banded together to get the mentally-challenged skateboarder who’s been my neighborhood for years, and had him arrested because a user felt threatened by him standing around the neighborhood shouting obscenities during manic episodes. (He’s now in jail and this NextDoor thread is trying to make…

I came to say the same thing. NextDoor is toxic. In our neighbor we had the same sort of issue with a mentally-challenged teenager. He likely stole someone’s election sign and the neighborhood flipped out. Zero love. Zero compassion for a mentally challenged boy.

Is this an attribute of the platform or an attribute of neighbourhoods without community?

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by anonymousiam » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:09 AM UTC

Nextdoor seems to be whatever the local moderators make of it. Mine will censor political views (mostly from the right). They will also censor posts related to breaking of unpopular laws (such as those related to pet ownership responsibilities like leashes and waste removal).

I doubt that Nextdoor corporate has any oversight into the performance of the local mods, and there's no mechanism in place to report such abuse. Nextdoor is far less open than any newspaper, which will usually at least have an editorial page.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by goles » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:10 AM UTC

valentinemsmith wrote: post #9

Were small-town papers just as toxic, or is it just my community here in SF? In the last month, on NextDoor, they doxxed and banded together to get the mentally-challenged skateboarder who’s been my neighborhood for years, and had him arrested because a user felt threatened by him standing around the neighborhood shouting obscenities during manic episodes. (He’s now in jail and this NextDoor thread is trying to make…

This is contrary to my Nextdoor experience in middle America suburbs. Most of the posting is fairly benign posting of lost/found dogs or cats, craigslist like sales, asking for HVAC/contracting referrals, or suggesting people support certain small businesses during COVID.

The other day an elderly couple put up a post asking for help removing snow and ice from their sidewalk/driveway because they are disabled. About a half dozen people showed up to help them including a plow driver which I thought was very nice.

I don't go there expecting deep or thought provoking content but it's nice to see if neighbors can help each other or understanding what the general consensus of your area is.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by Shared404 » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:11 AM UTC

peteretep wrote: post #33

barney54 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I came to say the same thing. NextDoor is toxic. In our neighbor we had the same sort of issue with a mentally-challenged teenager. He likely stole someone’s election sign and the neighborhood flipped out. Zero love. Zero compassion for a mentally challenged boy.

Is this an attribute of the platform or an attribute of neighbourhoods without community?

The nastiness is an attribute of the neighborhood, amplified by the platform.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by ke7in » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:12 AM UTC

koolba wrote: post #17

valentinemsmith wrote: post #9

Were small-town papers just as toxic, or is it just my community here in SF? In the last month, on NextDoor, they doxxed and banded together to get the mentally-challenged skateboarder who’s been my neighborhood for years, and had him arrested because a user felt threatened by him standing around the neighborhood shouting obscenities during manic episodes. (He’s now in jail and this NextDoor thread is trying to make…

Small town papers had letters to the editor that could get quite colorful but there was a modicum of class on the part of most editors not to publish to the truly disgusting. Nextdoor style discussion were previously relegated to inner social circles after dropping your kids off at soccer.

It feels like NextDoor is late to the moderation party. As Facebook and Twitter are finding themselves somewhat responsible for what users spew, NextDoor will see the actions like those called out by the top commenter happen much quicker.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by jedberg » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:12 AM UTC

valentinemsmith wrote: post #9

Were small-town papers just as toxic, or is it just my community here in SF? In the last month, on NextDoor, they doxxed and banded together to get the mentally-challenged skateboarder who’s been my neighborhood for years, and had him arrested because a user felt threatened by him standing around the neighborhood shouting obscenities during manic episodes. (He’s now in jail and this NextDoor thread is trying to make…

My first interaction with Next-door in Cupertino:

Neighbor: "There is a suspicious man walking around the neighborhood!!" (includes blurry picture)

Me: "What makes his suspicious?"

N: "He's black and wearing a hoodie! We don't have people like that around here"

M: "Being black doesn't make him suspicious. Would you say a white man in a hoodie is suspicious? Because we don't have a lot of those around here either"

Then I muted the thread.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by jedberg » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:13 AM UTC

goles wrote: post #35

valentinemsmith wrote: post #9

Were small-town papers just as toxic, or is it just my community here in SF? In the last month, on NextDoor, they doxxed and banded together to get the mentally-challenged skateboarder who’s been my neighborhood for years, and had him arrested because a user felt threatened by him standing around the neighborhood shouting obscenities during manic episodes. (He’s now in jail and this NextDoor thread is trying to make…

This is contrary to my Nextdoor experience in middle America suburbs. Most of the posting is fairly benign posting of lost/found dogs or cats, craigslist like sales, asking for HVAC/contracting referrals, or suggesting people support certain small businesses during COVID. The other day an elderly couple put up a post asking for help removing snow and ice from their sidewalk/driveway because they are disabled. About a…

Out of curiosity, are these neighborhoods mostly one race and one socioeconomic class?

It seems like racism and classicism are the biggest issues.

Re: Nextdoor is replacing the small-town paper

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Post by ngngngng » Fri, Feb 05, 2021, 1:13 AM UTC

I like the idea of Nextdoor, but everyone (seriously, everyone) in my small town in convinced that it's a scam. There was an article going around a few years back about scammers running their scams on nextdoor, and now they all believe that it's a scam so they stay on facebook in their groups.