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Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Cryptocurrency continues to gain more ground but I still have my reservations about it being the currency of the future. If by design, cryptocurrency has a finite volume of transferrable currency, do early adopters have an unfair advantage that could potentially make the currency unusable? I don’t see how it could possibly be fair when earlier mining yielded currency more quickly.

> If by design, cryptocurrency has a finite volume of transferrable currency, do early adopters have an unfair advantage that could potentially make the currency unusable?

> I don’t see how it could possibly be fair when earlier mining yielded currency more quickly.

If by design, fiat currency has an infinite volume of transferrable currency, do governments have an unfair advantage that could potentially make the currency unstable?

I don't see how it could possibly be fair when just printing it yielded currency more quickly than properly earning it.

Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Are there any crypto projects that allow chargebacks? I religiously avoid using my debit card except at bank ATMs to avoid that once every few years when someone skims my credit card. That and rewards are the main value-add of a traditional payment flow at the moment.

This to me is the barrier that prevents the adoption of crypto everywhere. There are substantial advantages to centralized control.

Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Are there any crypto projects that allow chargebacks? I religiously avoid using my debit card except at bank ATMs to avoid that once every few years when someone skims my credit card. That and rewards are the main value-add of a traditional payment flow at the moment.

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Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Fiat currencies will probably always exist. Digital crypto assets like Bitcoin or Ethereum will exist alongside them. Bitcoin can be an asset like gold, of which users keep a portion of their networth to protect from economic uncertainty. Its deflationary policy may make it less usable as a currency, but at least crypto gives people choice.

> Digital crypto assets like Bitcoin or Ethereum will exist alongside them. Bitcoin can be an asset like gold, of which users keep a portion of their networth to protect from economic uncertainty. Seems improbable, as it is far less stable than Gold. From what I see, it is almost never used as a currency, and almost always as a speculative asset. The main indicator for me is that Bitcoin is always measured in Dollars…

And how do you measure the value of gold?

Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Cryptocurrency continues to gain more ground but I still have my reservations about it being the currency of the future. If by design, cryptocurrency has a finite volume of transferrable currency, do early adopters have an unfair advantage that could potentially make the currency unusable? I don’t see how it could possibly be fair when earlier mining yielded currency more quickly.

> If by design, cryptocurrency has a finite volume of transferrable currency, do early adopters have an unfair advantage that could potentially make the currency unusable? > I don’t see how it could possibly be fair when earlier mining yielded currency more quickly. If by design, fiat currency has an infinite volume of transferrable currency, do governments have an unfair advantage that could potentially make the cur…

That doesn't even make sense. For a start governments don't earn money. Secondly, a managed currency controlled by a central bank under the control of a democratic government is a good thing.

Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Fiat currencies will probably always exist. Digital crypto assets like Bitcoin or Ethereum will exist alongside them. Bitcoin can be an asset like gold, of which users keep a portion of their networth to protect from economic uncertainty. Its deflationary policy may make it less usable as a currency, but at least crypto gives people choice.

You're not protecting from uncertainty with a currency whose value fluctuates against the dollar by 10% daily on a regular basis.

Do you think volatility will be the same 10 years from now? 20 years?

If so, why? I think volatility will down as volume and scale increase.

Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Are there any crypto projects that allow chargebacks? I religiously avoid using my debit card except at bank ATMs to avoid that once every few years when someone skims my credit card. That and rewards are the main value-add of a traditional payment flow at the moment.

Bitcoin allows transactions in the future. Thats effectively the same as a chargeback, since the sender of the money can decide at any point up to the time of the actual transfer to send the money elsewhere.

You could theoretically design a hardware wallet (like a credit card) to only sign transactions three days into the future. That would give you three days to 'charge back' anything you don't like.

Not sure merchants would be happy to accept that though...

Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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Cryptocurrency continues to gain more ground but I still have my reservations about it being the currency of the future. If by design, cryptocurrency has a finite volume of transferrable currency, do early adopters have an unfair advantage that could potentially make the currency unusable? I don’t see how it could possibly be fair when earlier mining yielded currency more quickly.

Isn't this kinda inherent in all currencies in a way? Those born in rich families "yielded currency much more quickly".

In currencies which are not subject to maximum limits, no.

Managed currencies tend to devalue over time. Rich families must invest and risk capital to keep growing their fortune, not just sit on it.

Re: Visa May Add Cryptocurrencies to Its Payments Network, Says CEO

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> cryptocurrency has a finite volume of transferrable currency This is true of Bitcoin. Others, such as Ethereum, have a known inflation schedule, which would help alleviate the issue you mentioned as being a currency of the future. Furthermore, it is looking like the "currency of the future" may (at least in the short term), look more like a cryptocurrency that is worth $1 and is 1:1 backed by a dollar in a bank acc…

Couldn’t a government just destroy a stable coin by seizing the currency backing it? Isn’t the point of a cryptocurrency supposed to be that it’s not controlled by any government?

I don’t know if a government today could just seize crypto, but the USA did so with gold in the past. Imagine owning a whole bunch of gold, and then waking up one morning & finding out it’d been replaced with US Dollars.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102

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