Weird, on a 10.11 system - no mountable filesystems.
opens fine on 10.15 - identical md5
New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
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Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#32But I thought X was dead? Every day or two I read about how X is dead here, on Slashdot, Twitter, on Michael Larabel's site, everybody chanting it in unison. How could all these voices be wrong? X11 is ALIVE?
Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#33Wow. The previous release was in 2016, so I was sure that XQuartz was dead for good. Nice to be pleasantly surprised! I occasionally use XQuartz to run graphical programs over SSH using X forwarding, although I’ve mostly moved on to other approaches due to a combination of: 1. Bad support for HiDPI displays (theoretically fixable in XQuartz - curious if they will tackle it now). 2. Annoyingly high input and redisplay…
> Annoyingly high input and redisplay latency (probably not fixable, just an inherent property of the very chatty X protocol).
Unless there's a program specific to your environment that is causing this, I would say that this is partially fixable. There's some kind of bug/weird implementation detail in the macOS vsync driver that causes massive lag in XQuartz.app and macports' X11.app.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPh4tc0_B0
If you use XQuartz regularly, I would highly recommend you install Quartz Debug.app so you can disable vsync before you hop into X.
https://download.developer.apple.com/Developer_Tools/Additio...
Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#34I wonder why they dropped support for cairo?
Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#35Weird, on a 10.11 system - no mountable filesystems. opens fine on 10.15 - identical md5
Perhaps some sort of APFS thing?
Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#36But I thought X was dead? Every day or two I read about how X is dead here, on Slashdot, Twitter, on Michael Larabel's site, everybody chanting it in unison. How could all these voices be wrong? X11 is ALIVE?
It's very hard to kill software that works.
Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#37Wow. The previous release was in 2016, so I was sure that XQuartz was dead for good. Nice to be pleasantly surprised! I occasionally use XQuartz to run graphical programs over SSH using X forwarding, although I’ve mostly moved on to other approaches due to a combination of: 1. Bad support for HiDPI displays (theoretically fixable in XQuartz - curious if they will tackle it now). 2. Annoyingly high input and redisplay…
> The previous release was in 2016, so I was sure that XQuartz was dead for good. Why though? It's not like the XWindows protocol changes that much (or at all). Having to do a new release for a new architecture like Apple Sillicon, sure, but that's another thing.
Not sure how XQuartz works, but Apple does like to deprecate APIs when a new one comes out. So if XQuartz relied on any deprecated ones, that would be an issue when they get removed.
Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#38A surprising number of features exist in OSX to make it comfortable for people used to Unix-like OSes. It's a shame Apple is so poorly behaved, I'd think about buying a personal mac if it weren't for that. Their terminal app will simulate a selection buffer for you (although it doesn't integrate with other apps which is why I end up pasting garbage into my terminal almost every time I clone something from github) and…
There are clearly a couple of people who really care about this internally and push to let it keep these features. I hope that the day when they are drowned out by the rest of the company does not come…
Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#39A surprising number of features exist in OSX to make it comfortable for people used to Unix-like OSes. It's a shame Apple is so poorly behaved, I'd think about buying a personal mac if it weren't for that. Their terminal app will simulate a selection buffer for you (although it doesn't integrate with other apps which is why I end up pasting garbage into my terminal almost every time I clone something from github) and…
quickdraw and carbon were explicitly presented as legacy APIs when OSX was introduced and were supported for backwards compatibility reasons. Quartz on the other hand, the actual supported API, has over time outclassed Xlib in almost every conceivable way.
Quartz does outclass Xlib in every way except portability and the shear number of language bindings.
Re: New Xquartz release with native Apple Silicon support
#40I wonder why they dropped support for cairo?
There was some trouble getting a release out the door some time back, due to lack of maintainers available to do it apparently:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25076197
Though they did manage in the end - latest one was Nov. 2020 - the person who did it said it would be his last https://www.cairographics.org/news