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WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management on the desktop

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Re: WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management on the desktop

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In 1993, the Windows Taskbar actually began life as tabs across the top of the screen: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/history-of-the-windows-st...

That isn't quite the same a what this software is or what Groupy does, but that is a fascinating article. I loved this part:

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For instance, one study subject took twenty minutes of staring at a Windows 3.1 desktop before being able to open a text editing program. Finally, a programmer spoke up that this was unacceptable, to Oran’s relief. But that relief would be short lived: “Our customers are morons!” exclaimed the programmer.

This was frustrating enough, Oran says. But then they talked to that user, and it turns out that he was actually a propulsion engineer for Boeing.

“He was literally a rocket scientist,” Oran says. “And even he couldn’t figure out Windows.”

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IMO the #1 opportunity for open source software to gain more mainstream acceptance is focusing on making it easier for non-technical users to use. Which is hard when most of your userbase is technical users. Microsoft deserves credit for realizing they had a usability problem, and having made major improvements to that over the years.

Re: WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management on the desktop

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In 1993, the Windows Taskbar actually began life as tabs across the top of the screen: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/history-of-the-windows-st...

Seems a key change was to name the button "Start" instead of "System". It's a built in instruction!

Reminds me of the (apocryphal?) story that the 'OK' button is only labelled that way because in user testing people read the original text - 'Do It' - as 'Dolt'.

Re: WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management on the desktop

#36

Awesome. Microsoft themselves had planned this feature for some time, but abandoned it for some reason. Instead they were probably focusing their efforts on making it harder to prevent automatic updates.

Is the feature you mean called Sets?

https://insider.windows.com/en-us/articles/introducing-sets

Looks like it was removed from Windows preview due to feedback, they may be reworking it in the background.

Re: WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management on the desktop

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post #32

In 1993, the Windows Taskbar actually began life as tabs across the top of the screen: https://www.businessinsider.com.au/history-of-the-windows-st...

That isn't quite the same a what this software is or what Groupy does, but that is a fascinating article. I loved this part: --- For instance, one study subject took twenty minutes of staring at a Windows 3.1 desktop before being able to open a text editing program. Finally, a programmer spoke up that this was unacceptable, to Oran’s relief. But that relief would be short lived: “Our customers are morons!” exclaimed…

> IMO the #1 opportunity for open source software to gain more mainstream acceptance is focusing on making it easier for non-technical users to use. Which is hard when most of your userbase is technical users. Microsoft deserves credit for realizing they had a usability problem, and having made major improvements to that over the years.

... I don't know. On the one hand, I applaud the sentiment. On the other hand, general computing needs of technical users are already becoming a niche too small for the market to serve. If Open Source community gets into their heads that they should optimize for non-technical users, I fear we'll have a dearth of tools...

Re: WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management on the desktop

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I miss when KDE had this in the KDE4 days. The only place I know where you can have window tabs by default is in Haiku.

i3 and any similar window manager have this feature.

Yeah it's a simple addition to an xmonad config

Re: WindowTabs: Browser-style tabbed window management on the desktop

#40

Hah! A friend just shared this with me, I'm Maurice the original author, long time anonymous hn lurker. This was a labor of love, I still remember the sheer exhilaration when I made my first sale!

I'm not going to ask for numbers, but did you make a reasonable income selling this?

The reason I ask is because I've been wondering about why the Mac seems to have a fairly healthy market for small software. It surprises me that Windows, being a much larger market, seems to have fewer opportunities for indie devs.

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