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GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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post #3

The high/low so far today is $514.50/$112.25. As I write this it's down 65%. What a surprise.

Matt Levine: "It seems meaningless to talk about the price of GameStop stock, as though a single number could represent such an elusive concept. GameStop stock has all the prices at once."

Schrödinger's stock price

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

#32

Not being in the US I don't know this but can Robinhood be sued, like a lot of people seem to be calling for, just for refusing to handle trades on a stock?

That’s a great question, can they unilaterally shutdown trading?

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

depends on when the positions are liquidated. everyone who bought yesterday is fighting exchanges whose only option for GME is "sell" because buying is restricted. I don't know how some of these shorts will find 20 million shares by tomorrow.

>I don't know how some of these shorts will find 20 million shares by tomorrow. you're confusing shorts with options. shorts don't expire. They can be held indefinitely as long as you have the margin to keep up with the losses.

If you short more stock than exists, eventually you need to find it. Prime brokers will allow you to naked short but you have to locate shares or buy back in pretty quickly.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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> "This isn't investing, this is gambling" Yep. Agreed. Spot-on. That's what Wall St does. If you don't like it, try and stop it. But for everyone, including the hedge funds. Treating the derivatives markets like a casino (and taxing appropriately) sounds like a great idea.

I get this knee jerk reaction but there is something to be said about the risk analysis, sophistication, etc of said hedge funds. They’re not gambling in the same sense, but sure in some sense they are. Even having an entry level “risk model” is more sophistication than most home traders.

You can’t just dismiss all that as nothing.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

#35
post #4

While the title might be true for the "amateur investors" that got in early, I strongly believe that most of them are not outwitting anyone and will be bagholders. As of this post basically everyone who bought yesterday are underwater by 50%.

Does it matter that your're underwater by 50%? The goal was to beat Wallstreet, They did. The hedgefunds should definitely take note not to play a dangerous game because losing is always on the table.

Well exactly, if you're holding a single share and you lose $200 dollars in the end, obviously it's not the end of the world.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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post #4

While the title might be true for the "amateur investors" that got in early, I strongly believe that most of them are not outwitting anyone and will be bagholders. As of this post basically everyone who bought yesterday are underwater by 50%.

depends on when the positions are liquidated. everyone who bought yesterday is fighting exchanges whose only option for GME is "sell" because buying is restricted. I don't know how some of these shorts will find 20 million shares by tomorrow.

they could always deal with the lenders, which don't gain anything if their borrowers go bankrupt and they won't even get back their pennystock. And I think these lenders already deal with them quite a bit. And obviously there's still a lot of shares with WSB and I don't see how the current situation prevents offering shares for the rocket-like USD1k.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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post #4

While the title might be true for the "amateur investors" that got in early, I strongly believe that most of them are not outwitting anyone and will be bagholders. As of this post basically everyone who bought yesterday are underwater by 50%.

Does it matter that your're underwater by 50%? The goal was to beat Wallstreet, They did. The hedgefunds should definitely take note not to play a dangerous game because losing is always on the table.

I think the later investors were coming in because they saw the craze on the news, Facebook, Twitter, etc and wanted to get rich quick. I have a few friends who invested yesterday.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

#38
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

depends on when the positions are liquidated. everyone who bought yesterday is fighting exchanges whose only option for GME is "sell" because buying is restricted. I don't know how some of these shorts will find 20 million shares by tomorrow.

>I don't know how some of these shorts will find 20 million shares by tomorrow. you're confusing shorts with options. shorts don't expire. They can be held indefinitely as long as you have the margin to keep up with the losses.

Shorts have delivery dates.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

#39
A stock actually has a calculable estimate of value, you know. It's the sum of future cash flows. Gamestop has been losing money for years and their outlook as a brick and mortar retailer for items that are now sold online is poor. The short sellers are correct. The business of Gamestop is bad and it's equity will be worth nothing. A short squeeze isn't going to change that in the long term.

Re: GameStop: Anger as trading in GameStop shares is restricted

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post #20

Nobody is “outwitting” Wall Street here. That will become particularly apparent in the coming days. I’ve read posts on /r/WSB where people talk about having put all of their savings into this. I only hope that they’re just teenagers with little savings.

We will be reading "I lost all my savings" posts in a few days on reddit. It is for sure GME will hit 30, and those bought it at high will be sharing their real life pain instead of memes.
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