Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020 • Hacker News Board

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by recursive » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:13 AM UTC

olivermarks wrote: post #21

nic-waller wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easier to set up back yard solar panels than a back yard fuel refinery.

'backyard' Solar panels won't recharge an EV

I mean, they certainly can. Depends on whose yard I guess.

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by acomjean » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:13 AM UTC

olivermarks wrote: post #21

nic-waller wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's easier to set up back yard solar panels than a back yard fuel refinery.

'backyard' Solar panels won't recharge an EV

We have a solar array on the roof. It’s great. But the dc->ac converter needs the grid to be active to do its conversion, so when the power goes out no solar. (I suspect it syncs with the grids 60hz...)

If you include a battery backup in your system, you can run without grid power.

When I worked at a power monitoring start up we had a demo house that was charging an electric rav4, so it’s possible.

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by anonuser123456 » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:15 AM UTC

angmarsbane wrote: post #17

One thing I keep getting tripped up on with EV cars is the usability during an emergency. I grew up in SoCal when there were rolling black-outs. Just this week, a windstorm took out my parent’s power for 3 days. I don’t view electricity to be as reliable as gas. What fact am I missing that can change my view on this?

I have lived in SoCal for 22 adult years. I’ve lost power maybe 3 times, and for at most 6 hours. A Tesla should have enough range for a few days commute w/out recharge.

I don’t think power reliability should be a concern... except for when the big one strikes. But in that case all the freeway overpasses will collapse, so an ICE car won’t help you anyway.

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by jlmorton » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:16 AM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #25

danhak wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blackouts knock out gas pumps, too.

They can always fuel a generator

They could, but most don't. During public safety power outages in 2019, most gas stations could not pump gas.

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by baskire » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:16 AM UTC

agumonkey wrote: post #25

danhak wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Blackouts knock out gas pumps, too.

They can always fuel a generator

And you can always use a generator to charge your ev. Or solar.

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by Zhenya » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:16 AM UTC

chovybizzass wrote: post #4

I am going to buy a new car soon and I think it will be the last time gasoline will be available for me. I'm going 4x4 so there's not much EV options.

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Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by Server6 » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:16 AM UTC

paul7986 wrote: post #27

Can i get an electric car that I can go fill it's battery as fast as I can go fill my gasoline tank? That's when I'm getting one!

This is unnecessary though. You just plug your car in every night like a cell phone and you have full charge every day. Tesla's supercharger network is plenty fast for long trips and adds a nominal amount of extra time.

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by Clewza313 » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:16 AM UTC

hourislate wrote: post #5

I read the following article today and was quite impressed. It's the worlds 2nd largest auto market and Tesla is doing very well there. The factory is not at full production and still they managed to be the best selling EV. Tesla Model 3 Is 2020's Best-Selling EV in China, Company Achieves 11% Market Share https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/tesla-became-...

11% of the EV market share, not the total market. Still impressive enough given that the Chinese EV market is extremely competitive and fragmented, but a long way from mass adoption.

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by john_w_t_b » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:19 AM UTC

chovybizzass wrote: post #4

I am going to buy a new car soon and I think it will be the last time gasoline will be available for me. I'm going 4x4 so there's not much EV options.

How about Jeep 4XE, RAV4 Prime or Mitsubishi Outlander. PHEV options are expanding for all wheel drive.

Re: Sales of electric cars up by 43% in 2020

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Post by bradlys » Mon, Jan 25, 2021, 5:19 AM UTC

anonuser123456 wrote: post #33

angmarsbane wrote: post #17

One thing I keep getting tripped up on with EV cars is the usability during an emergency. I grew up in SoCal when there were rolling black-outs. Just this week, a windstorm took out my parent’s power for 3 days. I don’t view electricity to be as reliable as gas. What fact am I missing that can change my view on this?

I have lived in SoCal for 22 adult years. I’ve lost power maybe 3 times, and for at most 6 hours. A Tesla should have enough range for a few days commute w/out recharge. I don’t think power reliability should be a concern... except for when the big one strikes. But in that case all the freeway overpasses will collapse, so an ICE car won’t help you anyway.

Sure but PG&E wasn't doing these outages 10 years ago as much as it is now.

In the Bay Area, it's regularly an occurrence where people in the Santa Cruz Mountains will not have power for 2 days to a week. With little to no notice too.

You come home with a low battery to refill it at home, you might not be able to get very far. Hopefully you just drive with 50+ miles ready all the time.