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Kids find a security flaw in Linux Mint by mashing keys

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Re: Kids find a security flaw in Linux Mint by mashing keys

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Post by bionade24 »

Munksgaard wrote: post #20
bionade24 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because X11 is such a joke. The problem is solved by wlroots and layer-shell, other Wayland compositors probably have similar things. Swaylock works 100%ly reliable until now (For me). I had problems with every other X11 screenlocker I used in the past. My unusual setup with a docking station and two monitors on it often caused crazy bugs. Edit: For me stuff

What's your take on the issues listed by formerly_proven[0]? 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25844338

I'll edit it to (for me). With working on an X11 desktop everyday, it felt like everyone has at least once experienced such an issue.

To be fair to swaylock, they actually fixed some of those issues, in contrast to kscreenlocker which are just ignoring most edge-case bugs, because it's nearly impossible to fix them.

Re: Kids find a security flaw in Linux Mint by mashing keys

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Post by Tsiklon »

boblivion wrote: post #23
gambiting wrote: post #7

Does anyone know why lockscreens in Linux have been such a joke? I remember trying Ubuntu couple years ago and when waking up my laptop it would show me my entire desktop with all the information displayed right there in the open for about 10-20 seconds before suddenly engaging the lockscreen. All you had to do was close the lid and open it again and you could just copy whatever was on the screen before the lock scre…

https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html Good post on the topic

Judging by the redirect to the image macro of a testicle in an egg cup, specifically calling out HN, I think we can assume the author of that article does not appreciate links to his website from HN

Re: Kids find a security flaw in Linux Mint by mashing keys

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Post by josephg »

gambiting wrote: post #7

Does anyone know why lockscreens in Linux have been such a joke? I remember trying Ubuntu couple years ago and when waking up my laptop it would show me my entire desktop with all the information displayed right there in the open for about 10-20 seconds before suddenly engaging the lockscreen. All you had to do was close the lid and open it again and you could just copy whatever was on the screen before the lock scre…

Can anyone explain why a crash in xscreensaver results in the computer being unlocked?

It seems like this whole class of bugs could be fixed pretty easily by having a simple process watchdog run xscreensaver as a child process, and re-launch it if it crashes without first signalling that the desktop has been unlocked.

Re: Kids find a security flaw in Linux Mint by mashing keys

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Post by bionade24 »

PurpleFoxy wrote: post #21
bionade24 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because X11 is such a joke. The problem is solved by wlroots and layer-shell, other Wayland compositors probably have similar things. Swaylock works 100%ly reliable until now (For me). I had problems with every other X11 screenlocker I used in the past. My unusual setup with a docking station and two monitors on it often caused crazy bugs. Edit: For me stuff

It seems like most of the complaints I see about distros have actually been solved problems for years but held back by poor distro defaults. I have been recommending fedora to people for a while because their defaults are far more modern and sane rather than clinging on to python 2 and X11

But then you are breaking enterprise stuff !!!1!11!

Re: Kids find a security flaw in Linux Mint by mashing keys

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Post by _puk »

martin-adams wrote: post #6

This reminds me of when I was about 14. I had a Tamagotchi which I had for a record amount of time. My niece, about 2 at the time wanted to see it so let her hold it. Within 1/2 a second, she squeezed both buttons at the same time and crashed it. My daughter managed to buy 24 hours of football pass with NowTV by pressing the same button repeatedly on the remote within about 5 seconds. So a crash like this doesn't sur…

Hah, just reminded me..

My daughter, whilst roaming in the US from the EU somehow managed to get unlimited data after her initial miserly roaming allowance was used up.. simply by switching airplane mode on and off repeatedly until data worked.

I was stressing getting back home to a huge bill, but kept the "all chargeable services have been stopped" messages just in case.

My final bill was £300+, zeroed.

Phew!

Re: Kids find a security flaw in Linux Mint by mashing keys

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Post by josefx »

martin-adams wrote: post #6

This reminds me of when I was about 14. I had a Tamagotchi which I had for a record amount of time. My niece, about 2 at the time wanted to see it so let her hold it. Within 1/2 a second, she squeezed both buttons at the same time and crashed it. My daughter managed to buy 24 hours of football pass with NowTV by pressing the same button repeatedly on the remote within about 5 seconds. So a crash like this doesn't sur…

> Within 1/2 a second, she squeezed both buttons at the same time and crashed it.

That was probably not a crash, on some that did a partial reset.

Re: Kids find a security flaw in Linux Mint by mashing keys

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Post by pojntfx »

gambiting wrote: post #7

Does anyone know why lockscreens in Linux have been such a joke? I remember trying Ubuntu couple years ago and when waking up my laptop it would show me my entire desktop with all the information displayed right there in the open for about 10-20 seconds before suddenly engaging the lockscreen. All you had to do was close the lid and open it again and you could just copy whatever was on the screen before the lock scre…

X11 problem. Wayland fixes that and is the default on Fedora etc. as of 2021.
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