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How does Signal work in the context of the Great Firewall? Can china shut down Signal by banning traffic that seems like Signal communication??
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> calls them assholes that don’t care about what happens outside of western society That's hardly her main point: > For Chinese who are used to a specific IME- like Sogou, trying to type on something else is a tiny bit like a QWERTY user suddenly faced with Dvorak- we can make it work, but it's slow enough day to day that 50/50 they just install Sogou because what's the big deal right? > The Signal "fix" is "Incognit…
I understand Naomi's point here, but I'm unclear how it relates to Signal. Isn't this an issue with 3rd party keyboards in any app?
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But if a person has something important to say, calling people that don't know about the issue assholes is not a great way to go about it. I know there is a western, and especially US/English, bias in tech. But it's not like everyone tries to annoy others, it's more an issue of ignorance. Btw I agree that when Signal says your messages are secure, it should probably do something to warn about ways things still may le…
> But if a person has something important to say, calling people that don't know about the issue assholes is not a great way to go about it. I don't mind it at all. If someone uses "being called asshole" as a reason to not even inform anyone, they would have found another excuse. Some people simply register it as strong language and otherwise focus on the content. At any rate, it's very easy to judge what someone say…
That's my point. By presenting the issue the way she did, people moved the conversation away from the issue and instead ended up in a meta-discussion about the discourse. If her points were laid out in a nicer manner, she would be closer to actually achieving her goal.
I remember a few days ago there was a post on hackernews to stop being mean to the people that worked at signal. The Twitter user linked in that article is railing into signal devs and she calls them assholes that don’t care about what happens outside of western society. https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/119769537620088012...
The thread there is really interesting. Apparently the "OEM" IMEs aren't the ideal standard for Chinese input, so people tend to use a proprietary one like Sogou's. [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sogou
I remember a few days ago there was a post on hackernews to stop being mean to the people that worked at signal. The Twitter user linked in that article is railing into signal devs and she calls them assholes that don’t care about what happens outside of western society. https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/119769537620088012...
> calls them assholes that don’t care about what happens outside of western society That's hardly her main point: > For Chinese who are used to a specific IME- like Sogou, trying to type on something else is a tiny bit like a QWERTY user suddenly faced with Dvorak- we can make it work, but it's slow enough day to day that 50/50 they just install Sogou because what's the big deal right? > The Signal "fix" is "Incognit…
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But if a person has something important to say, calling people that don't know about the issue assholes is not a great way to go about it. I know there is a western, and especially US/English, bias in tech. But it's not like everyone tries to annoy others, it's more an issue of ignorance. Btw I agree that when Signal says your messages are secure, it should probably do something to warn about ways things still may le…
> But if a person has something important to say, calling people that don't know about the issue assholes is not a great way to go about it. I don't mind it at all. If someone uses "being called asshole" as a reason to not even inform anyone, they would have found another excuse. Some people simply register it as strong language and otherwise focus on the content. At any rate, it's very easy to judge what someone say…
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Even if they did, creating a Chinese IME is a really difficult problem space. Since typing is generally done phonetically in mainland/HK/taiwan and the real words being typed are ideographic, there's a lot of inference to translate in between. Considering how quickly the language moves to keep up with internet culture and new newsworthy names, new parlances, new memes, an IME has to do the equivalent of staying up to…
The side effects of chinese not adopting a phonographic writing system when it could, or having both like japanese does so you don’t need to use such an informal ambiguous layer when actually writing.
"many of them use Signal" - where is this conclusion come from? They have WeChat. I've never seen any of my Chinese friends using Signal.