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Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

"250 picodollars / byte-month" is just a hackish way of saying "$0.25 / gigabyte-month, pro-rated down to the byte."

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Syncthing might be a good option for those that wish to migrate. It is a stable open-source solution for syncing a directory in many-to-many clients situation. The syncthing itself provides no servers. But if you wish to have a central server it could be as easy as just installing synchting on your main machine or a cheap VPS. The UI is good enough and it is stable.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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As a product focused company trying to create a great UX, it's really quite easy to justify something like this for creating a better UX. I can imagine a PM looking at the collaboration flow, UX researcher finding friction in initiating collaboration, testing mockups where Dropbox "magically" knows your colleagues, and it getting great reception from users. Most users still don't care about privacy, most users assume email addresses are essentially fully public.

This part is a better UX for the majority of users.

The problem comes when there's a data leak, or when the marketing team decide to email those contacts, or some time later that could really easily be argued as "this will never happen", and may often not, but it's possible.

It's details like this that differentiate the "good" product companies from the "great" product companies, specifically because the detail of "not collecting email addresses" would never be noticed by those users, by construction.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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I left dropbox when they changed the full page upsell to "dropbox business" so that I couldn't easily figure out how to skip it and get on with my work. I had a paid pro account at the time. I actually had a conversation with a product manager; I checked the yes you can contact me when I cancelled my account. They simply refused to admit that an upsell was a advertisement and that disrupting my workflow on my paid, p…

> they just couldn't grok the reason

It's hard to make someone understand something when their salary (and entire reputation - given that increasing engagement/retention by X% is a big selling point on a resume) depends on not understanding it.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

Check out the nextcloudpi project. Paid once for the pi/drive/case 4 years ago and been a happy user ever since.

It's been so worry free that when I had to move house I had to read the docs again to make sure I do things right. And that's on top of me studying the project well enough the first time I set it up that I ended up contributing some patches.

P.S. There are hosted offerings for nextcloud but for a household with 2-5 users I think nextcloudpi has the best value proposition.

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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From my perspective, Dropbox was doomed to decline ever since they made a big splash about how proud they were of moving off of public cloud in to self manage data centers.

While they no doubt reduced their operating costs with that move, I couldn't help it feel that this meant that they were investing so many of their precious mental cycles, hiring cycles, maintenance cycles, into plumbing instead of user-centered innovation which was their original sweet spot.

What was celebrated at the time as a great example of how cloud is a big mistake for people to me is in fact the opposite and should be used in future as a good business case study.

Folks never think about the opportunity cost; they get blinded by $$$ figures which are so misleading

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

Sync ( www.sync.com ) is pretty good, I wish their app and web ui was a lot better, the search sucks but I have been a paying customer for two years now. I like that it doesn't force you to collaborate. And that it's quite barebones. I have a 49 bucks a year for 500gb plan, which they no longer offer, but I guess I'm grandfathered in

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

i switched to microsoft 1Drive a long time ago, works seamlessly on windows

I am repeating myself from another thread but I'm 90% sure of the answer and no-one checks: are you sure OneDrive works well? Can you sync PST files? [1]

[1] https://www.eejournal.com/article/onedrive-down-the-road-to-...

Re: Tell HN: Dropbox now requires access to contacts for Google login

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Hmm. My Dropbox Pro subscription renewal is coming up. Is there an alternative to Dropbox that isn't iCloud or Google Drive? I would like to pay for Tarsnap but I don't understand 250 picodollars / byte-month.

There is still One Drive if we are taking about the big guys. You could also look into seedboxes.

I am repeating myself from another thread but I'm 90% sure of the answer and no-one checks: are you sure OneDrive works well? Can you sync PST files? [1]

[1] https://www.eejournal.com/article/onedrive-down-the-road-to-...

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