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Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by jackvalentine »

joecot wrote: post #25
jakear wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just use a web app? I don’t have the Twitter app installed because the web app does everything I need.

They have a Progressive Web App, which should be able to be loaded up and a home screen shortcut just like any app would. But it's not straight forward for Android (Parler users were trying to explain how to do it to each other with hilarious results), and I believe on Apple it can't be done. There have been called for regulating how Apple and Google protect their app stores after Parler was pulled, but I don't think…

> I believe on Apple it can't be done

You're incorrect.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by CryptoGhost »

bobsmooth wrote: post #7

Parler decided not to buy their own hardware and rent their own rack space. Plenty of other unpopular websites have figured it out.

You don't even need to do that. The actual key to running an extremist / subversive / hate / unpopular website is NOT connecting the site to any in-person activities. As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. Sure, companies like Google or WordPress will ban you if they don't like you, but you can still get service from Cloudflare, major web hosts, or domain registration without jumping through a bunch of hoops.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by mike_d »

SteveNuts wrote: post #9
bobsmooth wrote: post #7

Parler decided not to buy their own hardware and rent their own rack space. Plenty of other unpopular websites have figured it out.

There are ToS at Colo facilities also, renting rack space isn't foolproof either.

For a few thousand dollars a month I operate my own servers in n>1 physical locations with different companies and different transit providers.

I figured it out. Pirate Bay figured it out. Any company that genuinely cares about eliminating SPOFs has figured it out.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by tmpxgdqrcKFuG »

joecot wrote: post #25
jakear wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not just use a web app? I don’t have the Twitter app installed because the web app does everything I need.

They have a Progressive Web App, which should be able to be loaded up and a home screen shortcut just like any app would. But it's not straight forward for Android (Parler users were trying to explain how to do it to each other with hilarious results), and I believe on Apple it can't be done. There have been called for regulating how Apple and Google protect their app stores after Parler was pulled, but I don't think…

You just Open Safari, go to your web page you want, click the share icon, and "Add to Home Screen" for iOS.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by ggggtez »

Reedx wrote: post #20
copperwater69 wrote: post #3

>In more recent years, Kolmoisoppi has moved on to fund Njalla, a privacy-centric domain name registration service. One he says was already asked to host Parler, and refused. >“Of course we wouldn't,” Kolmisoppi said. “We're pro human rights, which includes the right to not be killed by extreme right wing terrorists.” Why do I see this embarrassing justification so often? It doesn't make sense to equate speech with v…

It also doesn't make sense because terrorists would obviously be using encrypted channels primarily, not some shabby public plain text forum. And most organization would be on Facebook, with orders of magnitude more users and better tools.

You are simply uninformed.

It is well documented that ISIS recruited people through Facebook and Twitter, and even YouTube.

Remember: before the terrorists get those encrypted apps, they need to be radicalized first. That step is done on public social networks, where network effects help spread their message to a receptive audience.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by outoftheabyss »

Meekro wrote: post #30

In contrast, Gab actually owns their own ASN and announces their own routes[1]. Much harder to deplatform. I'd expect no less from a YC alum! [1] https://bgp.he.net/AS42651

I set up an account this evening and it’s unusable due to loading times. They’ve added 1.7m in 4 days which may explain it. Be interesting to see how long it takes them to scale

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by formalsystems »

I got the sense while crawling data from their API that the engineering quality is poor at Parler. Dates were represented as strings in "YYYYMMDD" format (so today would be "20210113053923") instead of UNIX timestamps, certain fields were duplicated for no reason (e.g. every object would have an identical "id" and "_id" key), counts of impressions/comments/etc would be the display strings rather than raw numbers (so "2k" or "5m"), and various moderation flags were in place like a boolean "sensitive" which was always false, even for posts that had been downvoted significantly.

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by alphabet9000 »

"We don't condone gun violence. We believe that the world needs less guns, not more of them. We believe however that these prints will stay on the internets regardless of blocks and censorship, since that's how the internets works. If there's a lunatic out there who wants to print guns to kill people, he or she will do it. With or without TPB. Better to have these prints out in the open internets (TPB) and up for peer review (the comment threads), than semi hidden in the darker parts of the internet."

-The Pirate Bay

https://thepiratebay10.org/torrent/28522986/Liberator_-_Firs...

Re: Pirate Bay founder thinks Parler’s inability to stay online is 'embarrassing'

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Post by p1mrx »

CryptoGhost wrote: post #32
bobsmooth wrote: post #7

Parler decided not to buy their own hardware and rent their own rack space. Plenty of other unpopular websites have figured it out.

You don't even need to do that. The actual key to running an extremist / subversive / hate / unpopular website is NOT connecting the site to any in-person activities. As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room. Sure, companies like Google or WordPress will ban you if they don't like you, but you can still get service from Cloudflare, major web hosts, or d…

> As long as your website is just some text floating out there in the network there is a lot of wiggle room.

What does this even mean? Text has to be stored in some physical location, or set of locations.

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