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Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by 9wzYQbTYsAIc »

martinald wrote: post #4
davidhyde wrote: post #3

It’s nice to see .NET get some coverage now and again. It’s not regarded as the cool kid on the block but it just continues its quiet steady climb in ergonomics and performance year on year. I find c# to be a great language to build very large corporate applications in. I’ve never spotted an instance where something has been rewritten in a different language because c# was lacking in some way. Maybe it’s because the…

Agreed, and after a shakey start .NET Core is really delivering. It's trivial now to use any CI to build docker images of .NET core apps and deploy like any other docker container. Performance is great and I'm a huge fan of the big stdlib, which means less fragmentation and churn relying on packages for quite basic behaviour. The only thing I'm not entirely sure about is the recent direction of C# to add loads and lo…

A great deal of the “loads and loads of syntactic sugar” serves the purposes of making C# more functional-friendly. You might explore the new features from that paradigm, to help you reason about it.

Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by 9wzYQbTYsAIc »

hackerfromthefu wrote: post #9
martinald wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, and after a shakey start .NET Core is really delivering. It's trivial now to use any CI to build docker images of .NET core apps and deploy like any other docker container. Performance is great and I'm a huge fan of the big stdlib, which means less fragmentation and churn relying on packages for quite basic behaviour. The only thing I'm not entirely sure about is the recent direction of C# to add loads and lo…

Yes the big stdlib is the secret sauce. c# is great but the framework offers so much. Imagine taking a non trivial 5 year old javascript project and upgrading it .. but with .NET that is well written to use the framework features it's often quite achievable. I've upgraded a number recently and mostly it's been quick and successful. Because of the sensible stdlib!

I’m excited about Blazor and compiling dotnet to WebAssembly. There are some newer Blazor libraries built with the goal of having {no|minimal} JavaScript being written by application and web developers.

Of course, there’s lots of room to grow towards that goal.

Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by 9wzYQbTYsAIc »

Knave130121 wrote: post #7
davidhyde wrote: post #3

It’s nice to see .NET get some coverage now and again. It’s not regarded as the cool kid on the block but it just continues its quiet steady climb in ergonomics and performance year on year. I find c# to be a great language to build very large corporate applications in. I’ve never spotted an instance where something has been rewritten in a different language because c# was lacking in some way. Maybe it’s because the…

> I’ve never spotted an instance where something has been rewritten in a different language because c# was lacking in some way. Yes, that is what killed F# effectively - on top of not having any killer frameworks. Though to be fair even Scala is dead. Making a language popular is tough.

F# is alive and well and is a historical and contemporary source of new C# language features.

Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by 9wzYQbTYsAIc »

dcveloper wrote: post #10

Is there a decent Modern C# tutorial or book? I learned it in early 2000's, which was lacking many the new features and syntax improvements.

I’d recommend “Functional Programming in C#” to supplement your main reference material.

Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by majora2007 »

GiorgioG wrote: post #11
davidhyde wrote: post #3

It’s nice to see .NET get some coverage now and again. It’s not regarded as the cool kid on the block but it just continues its quiet steady climb in ergonomics and performance year on year. I find c# to be a great language to build very large corporate applications in. I’ve never spotted an instance where something has been rewritten in a different language because c# was lacking in some way. Maybe it’s because the…

For whatever it's worth, I've been a .NET developer since 2001 when I was finishing up college. I've also dabbled in Java, and some other languages here and there for one-off work and side-work projects. I haven't found anything to match C# & .NET's productivity. I gravitate towards strongly-typed languages which I know excludes a large swath of productive languages. .NET Core is fantastic. I recently bought an M1 Ma…

I actually just picked up .NET when 5 came out and have been working on a project and have been blown away how great not only is the ASP.NET Core framework but also the C# language.

Powerful, consistent, feature-rich. Coming from a python, java, web background, was really blown away. Wish more people would give .NET a chance. It isn't like it used to be when I first tried it in College and hated it.

Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by exhilaration »

moomin wrote: post #25
deskamess wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any pointers on a gentle introduction to docker and kubernetes in the .net world? Most of the docs seem to be tuned to Linux ecosystems... which makes sense given the heritage.

I’d recommend embracing it: the Microsoft Linux .NET containers are solid. It’s not that hard writing .NET code on Windows and deploying to Linux containers.

I work for a large Unnamed Parcel Service, we've got a ton of legacy applications on pretty much every platform you could name from the last 50 years. But all our new application are .Net Core in Linux containers running on Azure Kubernetes Service.

Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by martinald »

deskamess wrote: post #17
martinald wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, and after a shakey start .NET Core is really delivering. It's trivial now to use any CI to build docker images of .NET core apps and deploy like any other docker container. Performance is great and I'm a huge fan of the big stdlib, which means less fragmentation and churn relying on packages for quite basic behaviour. The only thing I'm not entirely sure about is the recent direction of C# to add loads and lo…

Do you have any pointers on a gentle introduction to docker and kubernetes in the .net world? Most of the docs seem to be tuned to Linux ecosystems... which makes sense given the heritage.

I'm really only using it on Linux. VS and VSCode (with the Docker and .NET plugins) can generate docker files with one click/command for .NET projects, which also use the right dlls from your project as entrypoints, etc.

From that it's just standard Docker - it doesn't matter that you are running .NET core in it really. You can do anything you could normally in Docker and K8S.

Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by pjc50 »

davidhyde wrote: post #3

It’s nice to see .NET get some coverage now and again. It’s not regarded as the cool kid on the block but it just continues its quiet steady climb in ergonomics and performance year on year. I find c# to be a great language to build very large corporate applications in. I’ve never spotted an instance where something has been rewritten in a different language because c# was lacking in some way. Maybe it’s because the…

It's a very productive ecosystem. It doesn't have the same level of enterprise factory wartiness that Java does; its Windows IDE is extremely integrated; it lets you write functional-ish code in an imperative environment; and it has LINQ, which is fantastic.

Having cut my teeth on C++ and being reasonably familiar with Python, I'll choose C# for anything larger than a script that doesn't need direct memory layout control.

Deployment story is still a bit of a pain sometimes.

Re: Milestone: Half a million downloads for VideoLAN packages in the .NET ecosystem

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Post by vxNsr »

aljarry wrote: post #26

And some of those was my team and our CI. We were capable of replacing old hand-written video player based off DirectX.net in an enterprise app - mainly due to new requirements for supported codecs and video formats. No more list of codecs and installation order on target machines. It was very easy to integrate - I've finished a POC with a lot of functionality rebuilt in just around 2 hours. We had two issues that we…

2 is a problem in their app as well. They explain that due to how they decode the file it’s not possible. I’m assuming it’s got to due with a decision that was made years ago in the architecture and would just be too costly to change today.
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