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#31

Not sure we want to set a precedent for tech companies getting to silence whoever they choose, but tech companies should have the power to effectively censor SOME things (child porn, for instance).

Conflating this issue with censorship is a false equivalence. This should purely be viewed through the lens of freedom of association.

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#33
Yes, with caveats. You do not have the right to scream "fire" in a crowded theater. Continuing to incite insurrectionists seems to be screaming "fire". But should a private company be the judge of what is this line?

Not sure if that is the current interpretation of "with caveats" means

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#34
These companies are ultimately in the business of staying in business. A governmental overthrow is bad for business so its stopped. It all makes sense and seems good. The only concern is if the government goes off the rails. But thats on the people of the nation.

All seems to be working properly.

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#35
No, with caveats.

Apple and Google, fine. That’s distribution. They have a lot of distribution power, but that’s an antitrust question.

AWS pulling the plug is infrastructure being yanked, and that’s more concerning. It takes Parler off the web. That’s closer to silencing than removing an amplifier.

Nobody should be forced to provide services to the likes of Parler. But cutting them off with hours’ notice is excessive.

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#36

I have no particular comment about Parler specifically, but in the general case: Suppose you're a single-person startup of an app called "Speak!". Speak! is pretty niche, but one day, a group of the X-People are ostracized on all the popular forums: Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc. Because Speak! is the only remaining bastion for the X-People all of them flock to Speak!. Let's say the X-People say things that aren't e…

This isn't "things that aren't exactly popular". This is organizing an insurrection against the government and advocating for violence against groups and individuals.

And Twitter hosts leaders of terroristic regimes. It remains unbanned. What, exactly, is your point?

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#37
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I am no Trump supporter or conservative - I find it ridiculous that I feel the need to preface that - but I can’t be the only one that is surprised at how willing people are to accept Big Tech becoming the arbiter of truth and acceptable political viewpoints. From the calls to violence on Facebook, to the terrorists on Twitter, to the hardcore pornography on Reddit, plenty of platforms break Apple’s, Google’s, or Ama…

Parler refused to even try to moderate posts and users calling for violence.

This isn't about ideology, except in cases where an ideology is calling for violence.

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#38
I believe companies should have a right to have a terms of service and to act on those terms of service. They do it every day. Parler can still buy some servers and host a website and use mobile web. If Google took the step to block them with Chrome then I think I would have issue with that.

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#39
No.

If Parler was deemed illegal (eg: it was ruled by law that it's facilitating terrorism), then YES.

If they are violating Amazon Terms of Service / Apple's Terms of Service, then YES (TOS is a bit of a grey area, but assuming that things are clear enough, those should be enforced). One can argue about a monopolic market position, at which case it's the role of the Government to solve the issue and regulate (in a theoretically speaking, well functioning capitalistic framework).

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#40
They are all private companies. They are free to choose who to do business with. If Parler broke the ToS, then there's even more reason for Amazon/Apple/Google to cut ties.
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