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Tim Berners-Lee wants to put people in control of their personal data

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Re: Tim Berners-Lee wants to put people in control of their personal data

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Post by adkadskhj »

BlueTemplar wrote: post #17

> “No one will argue with the direction,” said Liam Broza, a founder of LifeScope, an open-source data project. “He’s on the right side of history. But is what he’s doing really going to work?” While I totally support Tim's project, history will decide what is "on the right side of history". Unless he's from the future?

Well.. obviously it's speculation. Specifically a form of speculation describing Liam's belief in this technology.

With that said, depending on what specifically Liam had in mind with that quote, i don't think it's far off. Tim's technological choice might be right or wrong, but it's difficult to argue that people should be able to own more of their data than they do now. Is there some pro-Google argument that would argue they're the ideal hosts for your data?

Re: Tim Berners-Lee wants to put people in control of their personal data

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Post by ocdtrekkie »

pents90 wrote: post #3

How do you grant a company access to your data but prevent them from storing it? And how does it apply to data a company generates about me? For example, if I listen to songs on Spotify, are they supposed to somehow not store it, but still give me recommendations?

To me, this is the major flaw with Solid: Why use a third party's service at all? Why should your apps and your data be on your own server? Sandstorm and Cloudron already do this, and make it user-friendly to install, remove, and share web apps with people from a private space. Furthermore, Sandstorm also assumes apps are malicious, so it is relatively safe to install proprietary apps on-device and still prevent data exfiltration.

There are very few types of apps which truly need a third party server to work.

Re: Tim Berners-Lee wants to put people in control of their personal data

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Post by WarOnPrivacy »

> Tim Berners-Lee wants to put people in control of their personal data

This seems like a movement that would be at odds with the interests of people who fund elections. It could easily trigger the bazillionth instance of corps and legislators uniting to squash a public interest.

Re: Tim Berners-Lee wants to put people in control of their personal data

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Post by chrisseaton »

gnarbarian wrote: post #6
pents90 wrote: post #3

How do you grant a company access to your data but prevent them from storing it? And how does it apply to data a company generates about me? For example, if I listen to songs on Spotify, are they supposed to somehow not store it, but still give me recommendations?

>How do you grant a company access to your data but prevent them from storing it? Outlaw it. >And how does it apply to data a company generates about me? You store it on a server you control, then provide access to 3rd parties. This is how https://urbit.org/understanding-urbit/ is setup to work.

> Outlaw it.

Companies always follow the law.

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