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Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by tomrod »

jedberg wrote: post #7

I'm not a huge fan of Parler, but hopefully this move pushes the government to force Apple to allow alternate App stores and/or side loading. People should be able to run Parler on their phone if they want to, with full API access, not the half-measures that having a web app allow.

> People should be able to run Parler on their phone if they want to, with full API access, not the half-measures that having a web app allow.

Under what justification?

These people agreed to the contract. Their BATNA is Android, which allows sideloading, or their web browser, where they can be as unmoderated as they want to be.

There is no problem here. If you want an Iphone supporting app store with more permissible side loading, go build one.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by bjt2n3904 »

It's very surreal watching this happen.

CloudFlare will be next, and they've already set the precedent that they will cease to serve websites that are "detrimental to society". Followed by Digital Ocean, Amazon, Verizon, Comcast, AT&T.

For those of you who championed XKCD #1357 at every opportunity, congratulations! You've won. For a short time. The consequences of censorship will be dire.

I'm no fan of Sagan, but he was right what he saw here:

> I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; [...]

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by joebidenforprez »

This is ridiculous. Who decides what is considered violence and what is not?

I personally feel black lives matter was a terrorist organization, they looted stores, destroyed people livelihood, murdered whites in the streets, and destroyed many cities across america. Yet posts calling for those protests are fully allowed, even encouraged on mainstream platforms like twitter etc. Yet a small group of crazies march on the rich politicians like pelosi profiting off all the dumb people who voted for them, eating 10000$ ice cream and going to hair salons while everyone is locked down and that is called violence!!

Why should apple be the one to decide what is violent and what isn't. This is crazy.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by cryptoz »

xiaolingxiao wrote: post #16

Is there someone closer to the decision making process who could explain this sequence of events? From afar it looks as if all the tech companies coordinated this action, Apple delaying it by a day for optic reasons. I am not as troubled by the decision as some people, but the timing merits examination.

The tech companies did not coordinate the attempted violent overthrow of the US government; that was the far-right extremists doing the coordinating, not the tech companies. The tech companies are simply responding to their platforms being used to incite violent riots, murder, and the direct overthrow of our democratic government.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by joshuamorton »

option wrote: post #11

this will further isolate the part of population which need to hear alternative viewpoints the most.

Parler already banned non-right wing content (contrary to its "free speech" claims). If you wanted to de-escalate on parler, you couldn't. You'd get banned.

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by ce4 »

jedberg wrote: post #7

I'm not a huge fan of Parler, but hopefully this move pushes the government to force Apple to allow alternate App stores and/or side loading. People should be able to run Parler on their phone if they want to, with full API access, not the half-measures that having a web app allow.

IOS security depends on the gated appstore model to prevent private iOS api access/abuse.

Alternate app stores would jeopardize its famed security

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by tedjdziuba »

jedberg wrote: post #7

I'm not a huge fan of Parler, but hopefully this move pushes the government to force Apple to allow alternate App stores and/or side loading. People should be able to run Parler on their phone if they want to, with full API access, not the half-measures that having a web app allow.

"This computer is my property, I should be able to run whatever programs I want on it."

This was the hacker ethos from the 90s. Where did that go?

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by tomrod »

mcphilip wrote: post #13

Glad I downloaded it yesterday since this was obviously an unrealistic deadline. It’s getting harder and harder to keep tabs on both sides now. Things have really fragmented in the past 24 hours: lots of posts on MeWe, Telegram, Gab, etc, looking for the “best” communication channel.

Won't it always be IRC through anonymous VPN and TOR?

Re: Amazon, Apple and Google Cut Off Parler

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Post by chapium »

jedberg wrote: post #7

I'm not a huge fan of Parler, but hopefully this move pushes the government to force Apple to allow alternate App stores and/or side loading. People should be able to run Parler on their phone if they want to, with full API access, not the half-measures that having a web app allow.

Why can't they have a decent web app? Its not like microblogging requires a complex ui.
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