Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't exist anymore :)
The article says it will be opened and used again.
When?
London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
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Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#32If a mutant strain of COVID-19 becomes twice as deadly, this "merely" doubles the pressure on hospitals. A constant factor like this can be dealt with. However, an increased rate of spread (R factor) is a change in the parameter of the exponential curve, and cannot be dealt with by any sub-exponential response. The only thing that could possibly work is to change the factor. Rapid vaccination or lockdown. It's imposs…
I agree, but I think there is now a non-trivial group who are either a) in total denial about the virus or believe it's a conspiracy, b) overwhelmed by news of it and unable/unwilling to process anything new, or c) believe in herd immunity and might even welcome a faster spread on that basis.
Arguments about exponentials mean nothing to anyone in any of these buckets— they'll be flaunting a lockdown up until and perhaps beyond the point where it is administered by force.
I don't know how to deal with this reality, but it feels like the greatest threat at this point.
Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#33And yet we still have idiots here in the UK saying things ranging from:
* coronavirus is invented as a government power grab
* the government locking down is a deliberate ploy to kill small businesses
* the government should just let this run its course, it’s Just A Flu TM
* hospitals are actually empty (the “proof” being people recording empty waiting rooms in outpatient departments on bank holiday weekends)
* coronavirus doesn’t exist (!)
Maybe this will be a bit of a wakeup call.
Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#34If a mutant strain of COVID-19 becomes twice as deadly, this "merely" doubles the pressure on hospitals. A constant factor like this can be dealt with. However, an increased rate of spread (R factor) is a change in the parameter of the exponential curve, and cannot be dealt with by any sub-exponential response. The only thing that could possibly work is to change the factor. Rapid vaccination or lockdown. It's imposs…
> This change in the virulence is more scary.
I think you mean infectivity (relating to transmission), not virulence.
Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#353478 people died from COVID in the US yesterday. https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/us-daily-deaths
~1700 people per day die of heart disease in America and have done so for decades. I think we should shut down the economy until we can get everyone's heart healthy.
Heart disease isn't contagious
Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#36Even bigger news is that as of yesterday there were just 46 free ICU beds (out of 1300+) in the whole London
So like usual around this time then Dunno why you're downing me but... The data is all here https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/statistical-work-areas...
because that narrative diverges from the groupthink
Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#37In Florida, bars and restaurants are just about fully open and everything is just fine.
Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#38Because on one hand the government thinks it's OK for people to die alone in ICU and bury them without their friends of family[1]. But on the other hand said that it's OK to meet people to celebrate Xmas with[2].
Sources:
[1]https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-52312653
[2]https://www.bbc.com/news/explainers-55056375
Edit: Downvoted? It's not even my opinion. It's facts. Damn.
Or do you think that's not the reason? Timing-wise it matches pretty well.
Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#39And yet we still have idiots here in the UK saying things ranging from: * coronavirus is invented as a government power grab * the government locking down is a deliberate ploy to kill small businesses * the government should just let this run its course, it’s Just A Flu TM * hospitals are actually empty (the “proof” being people recording empty waiting rooms in outpatient departments on bank holiday weekends) * coron…
It's not a wake-up call until protestors storm the government buildings. Apparently.
Re: London will be overwhelmed by Covid in a fortnight says leaked NHS briefing
#403478 people died from COVID in the US yesterday. https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/us-daily-deaths
~1700 people per day die of heart disease in America and have done so for decades. I think we should shut down the economy until we can get everyone's heart healthy.
You’re right, this is a massive issue and should be addressed as a public health emergency.
Fortunately isn’t not contagious and so the solutions to that issue can be different from the solutions we apply to Covid.