'Plain old untrendy troubles and emotions' (2008)

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Re: 'Plain old untrendy troubles and emotions' (2008)

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Post by watwut » Fri, Jan 08, 2021, 8:53 PM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #28

watwut wrote: post #25

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Typically, older teachers who sleep with a lot of students do abuse their position and authority in order to be able to do it. Whether by giving favorable/unfavorable grades, by visibly preferring some students or by more direct threats. > moralist, religious-derived, US-centric concern Then again, if teacher touches you inappropriately in US or is trying to manipulate you into that, you can actually complain. It is…

> It is not exactly US-centric concern to think that any of above happen. The same happen everywhere. It is that complaining about it in US is not a taboo. I think it's more that sexuality in the US is a taboo, and everything is seen in the prism of violation and litigation.

There is such a thing as violation. There is such a thing as teacher or boss abusing his authority to get sex where he has upper hand. In US, that topic is not taboo. If where you are such option is not accepted as possibility, then it is not US who has taboo.

Non american women do get touched inappropriately and they do not like it. And they do complain about it, if you know them close enough.

Re: 'Plain old untrendy troubles and emotions' (2008)

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Post by logicchains » Sat, Jan 09, 2021, 5:15 AM UTC

coldtea wrote: post #22

logicchains wrote: post #20

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> that's a moralist, religious-derived, US-centric concern It's a conflict of interest, like an employee sleeping with their boss. It's hard to trust somebody to fairly assess somebody they're sleeping with.

> It's a conflict of interest, like an employee sleeping with their boss It's only bad if it's part of blackmail or exchange (e.g. for grades, etc). Else, if it's a consentual relation, it's fine just like any other. Lots of employees have had great relationships and marriages and kids with their bosses and vice versa. And even more students and professors had affairs (this will include someone like French President…

>Humans are humans they don't easily compartmentalize their attraction or sexuality just because some bureaucratic rules say so

This is exactly my point. Even if the professor and student don't intend it to be a grades-for-sex exchange, it would be hard for the professor to be completely objective, and not unfairly grade that student higher than other students with whom the professor didn't have such a close relationship.

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