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Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by hnburnsy » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 3:43 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #10

Wow this makes me want to buy an Apple Watch! In the military knowing first-light and last-light, down to within a few minutes, is essential daily. I have an app on my phone that tells me sunrise and sunset, but as the article describes these aren't the same thing. I also have a very expensive top-of-the-range Garmin watch and even that just tells me the less useful sunrise and sunset, which makes me suspicious it's…

On your Garmin the out of the box Sunrise and Sunset widget displays civil twilight times...

https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/fenix66s6xpro/EN-US/...

Or check the Solaris watch face which shows civil twilight, nautical twilight, astronomical twilight, and night.

https://apps.garmin.com/en-US/apps/0e019a96-aeb3-4aaf-81ed-4...

Above subject to which device you have.

Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 3:46 AM UTC

Jtsummers wrote: post #30

chrisseaton wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ah and even moon-rise and moon-set! But it doesn't seem to tell you for any day except today! But errr... isn't the Weather Underground a domestic terrorism and bombing group?

Contrary to what the others posted, the name is only a reference. The weather service is not a continuation of the earlier group. It was acquired by The Weather Channel (later The Weather Company) which was later acquired by IBM.

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Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by supernova87a » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 4:04 AM UTC

dgarrett wrote: post #24

supernova87a wrote: post #23

Is it just me or does anyone else not have access to this new face (even if watch is on OS v6+)? Do you need a certain watch series?

Some watch faces are only available on Series 4 and later, with their bigger screens.

Thanks!

Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by meej » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 4:17 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #10

Wow this makes me want to buy an Apple Watch! In the military knowing first-light and last-light, down to within a few minutes, is essential daily. I have an app on my phone that tells me sunrise and sunset, but as the article describes these aren't the same thing. I also have a very expensive top-of-the-range Garmin watch and even that just tells me the less useful sunrise and sunset, which makes me suspicious it's…

Skylight for iOS https://apps.apple.com/us/app/skylight-sun-clock/id110775991...

Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by russh » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 4:55 AM UTC

macintux wrote: post #21

TimC123456 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I like The Photographer’s Ephemeris ( https://www.photoephemeris.com/ ) which includes times for astronomical twilight, nautical twilight, civil twilight, as well as moon and sun rise and set times, golden hour, shadow estimation based on landmark position and height, and so many more great features. A very handy tool for location/photo scouting. Has a web app, APIs, and all the usual platform apps, too.

I second this recommendation. TPE is a fantastic tool, helped me plan out one of my favorite photos: https://epep.us/image/136923745790

Nice.

Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by exmadscientist » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 5:02 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #10

Wow this makes me want to buy an Apple Watch! In the military knowing first-light and last-light, down to within a few minutes, is essential daily. I have an app on my phone that tells me sunrise and sunset, but as the article describes these aren't the same thing. I also have a very expensive top-of-the-range Garmin watch and even that just tells me the less useful sunrise and sunset, which makes me suspicious it's…

Sunclock for Android is pretty good for free (with ads, or pay to remove ads):

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.hbenecke.su...

Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by dmix » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 5:10 AM UTC

LeoPanthera wrote: post #26

chrisseaton wrote: post #10

Wow this makes me want to buy an Apple Watch! In the military knowing first-light and last-light, down to within a few minutes, is essential daily. I have an app on my phone that tells me sunrise and sunset, but as the article describes these aren't the same thing. I also have a very expensive top-of-the-range Garmin watch and even that just tells me the less useful sunrise and sunset, which makes me suspicious it's…

"Yes" make traditional watches with solar faces, if you don't want a smartwatch. https://www.yeswatch.com

That's really cool as well. I like the video explanation. Too many websites fail to explain what the product actually is and this simple site did a good job. Basic ecommerce done well here.

That said for nearly $700USD I'd rather go for a smart watch. Even though I understand why you wouldn't want one for privacy, distraction/addiction, or whatnot.

Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by reaperducer » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 5:22 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #10

Wow this makes me want to buy an Apple Watch! In the military knowing first-light and last-light, down to within a few minutes, is essential daily. I have an app on my phone that tells me sunrise and sunset, but as the article describes these aren't the same thing. I also have a very expensive top-of-the-range Garmin watch and even that just tells me the less useful sunrise and sunset, which makes me suspicious it's…

I don't know if anyone knows an app that gives first-light and last-light for the phone, so I don't have to buy a new watch?

I'd like one that takes into account terrain. All of the apps I've seen believe the world is a perfectly smooth. I live in a place with mountains, and my "last-light" time at certain points of the year can be as much as 50 minutes earlier than any app will predict.

Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by saagarjha » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 5:57 AM UTC

Apple certainly can make very pretty watchfaces. Especially in the areas where it seems that they are inspired by physical, classical watches: there’s a bunch there that you can basically see as very attractive to traditional watch people. But the other faces? Eh, they’re kind of mediocre. I never really understood why Apple is so dead set on shipping watch faces that aren’t very good while also denying people the ability to make good ones :(

Re: The Eerie Beauty of the Apple Watch Solar Face, and the Anatomy of Nightfall

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Post by _emacsomancer_ » Sun, Jan 03, 2021, 6:13 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #10

Wow this makes me want to buy an Apple Watch! In the military knowing first-light and last-light, down to within a few minutes, is essential daily. I have an app on my phone that tells me sunrise and sunset, but as the article describes these aren't the same thing. I also have a very expensive top-of-the-range Garmin watch and even that just tells me the less useful sunrise and sunset, which makes me suspicious it's…

Suntimes on Android is very nice: https://github.com/forrestguice/SuntimesWidget and shows "sunrise and sunset, twilights (civil / nautical / astronomical), blue and golden hour, solstices and equinoxes, moonrise and moonset, moon phases and illumination."