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Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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As someone already totally on board with ending aging, I found this article not terribly helpful. My main questions are "what should I be doing right now to stop my own body from aging?" and "when will more stuff be available for me to do that is not currently?" The article didn't help much in this regard. As far as I can tell, there are a number of clinical trials I should watch to see if those drugs work in humans?…

Do you avoid sugar, fructose, calorie free sweeteners? Do you do strength training & cardio? Are you overweight? Is your waist to hip ratio ideal for your gender? Do you monitor your blood glucose? Get 8 hours of sleep consistently? Avoid stress? Do not live close to a highway / live in a place with high air quality? Get consistent screening for issues that your family has to catch them early? Get enough sunshine? Re…

> calorie free sweeteners

Could you please provide some evidence for how these impact longevity? Especially those from natural sources, e.g. stevia and monk fruit. Not trying to be snarky, just genuinely curious!

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Sustained-release melatonin before bed (minimum dose to maintain youthful serum; eg, REMfresh). Balance with vitamin D3 (+ K2) in the morning. Meet all RDAs with just a variety of whole quality foods. Last meal 3-4 hours before bed or earlier to not ruin hGH/IGF-1 release during first few hours of sleep. 2:2:1-2 calcium:phosphorus:magnesium ratio.

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I find majority of anti-aging articles to be way too optimistic. Consider the following: We still cannot treat many well understood diseases, including tuberous sclerosis, allergies, asthma, etc. We don't know the exact cause of multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, type 2 diabetes, etc, despite studying those diseases for decades. We can't help you keep the color of your hair or regrow your missing teeth, despite…

Scepticism is healthy. That said, aging affects 100% of population and is lethal. The amount of funding & effort should be orders of magnitude larger than for any of diseases you mentioned.

I'm reading through Sinclair's book "Lifespan - Why We Age and Why We Don’t Have To" and I find it fascinating (especially the chapter on origins of life and proto-genes of aging). When Sinclair talks about time-scales, he makes comparison to cancer. During last 50 years medicine went from fighting symptoms to actually addressing source for some cancer types. The quote that stood out: "From looks of it aging is not going to be that hard to treat, far easier than curing cancer". Book's predictions may feel too optimistic to me, but I don't have any qualifications to make such claim against leading researcher in field.

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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Do you avoid sugar, fructose, calorie free sweeteners? Do you do strength training & cardio? Are you overweight? Is your waist to hip ratio ideal for your gender? Do you monitor your blood glucose? Get 8 hours of sleep consistently? Avoid stress? Do not live close to a highway / live in a place with high air quality? Get consistent screening for issues that your family has to catch them early? Get enough sunshine? Re…

> calorie free sweeteners Could you please provide some evidence for how these impact longevity? Especially those from natural sources, e.g. stevia and monk fruit. Not trying to be snarky, just genuinely curious!

Well for one, natural sweeteners interfere with the bodies insulin response. I.e. it will overproduce in anticipation, but then your blood sugar drops into oblivion, because well, you didn't actually eat sugar. Is this bad? Probably not if you don't overuse them.

Besides that? I can tell you my body is very sensitive and artificial sweeteners (I literally tried all different kinds) make hell break lose in it, much worse than sugar could ever be. So perhaps they aren't such a great replacement after all? This usually applies to everything humans try to lazily swap out in foods. Oh so I am vegan? Keep these meat replicas coming, only they are like 100 times worse for your health than the real thing...

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Ok. I read the whole thing. As someone who participated in the proto-less-wrong type forums on anti ageing/longevity/being immortal almost close to two decades ago, I just want to add that even back in 2002, cryonics was ALWAYS plan B to many of us who spent our evenings chatting about how to live forever.

There is too much to say..but short version: Cryonics was not just bad science. It was considered by many of us then as bad science fiction...at its best. At its worst, no more useful than the Egyptian mummification attempts to become immortal. In the end, the Egyptian mummies ended to as fertilizer anyways.

Alcor that went by Life Extension then got into a right royal soup later when Ted Williams frozen body was separated from his head that went missing and was kicked around by a rogue employee. Several of his DNA samples went missing.

It was GNARLY. I slowly became disenchanted but I have to admit that reading this now, great strides have certainly been made..not so much as getting closer to anti-ageing, but more in terms of clarity of purpose.

On a slightly related(nostalgic) note: ‘neural link’ was always the reachable and desirable goal. And I think that’s where we will end up eventually. Neural links and clones/bionic/prosthetic aided clones.

Re: Ted Williams and Alcor .. https://connectingdirectors.com/53931-ted-williams

[..]But the worst was yet to come. Fast forward seven years to 2009, when a book by a former employee of Alcor hit the shelves containing explosive allegations of Alcor’s abusive treatment of Williams’ frozen head. Author Larry Johnson wrote that an empty tuna can was used as a pedestal to support the slugger’s head while experiments (which subsequently cracked his frozen brain) were conducted. When the tuna can became stuck to the head, an Alcor employee allegedly tried to dislodge it by swinging at it with a monkey wrench, in the process missing the can and connecting with Williams’ head instead. Johnson wrote that the impact sprayed “bits of frozen head” around the room.[..]

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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post #11
post #4

As someone already totally on board with ending aging, I found this article not terribly helpful. My main questions are "what should I be doing right now to stop my own body from aging?" and "when will more stuff be available for me to do that is not currently?" The article didn't help much in this regard. As far as I can tell, there are a number of clinical trials I should watch to see if those drugs work in humans?…

Do you avoid sugar, fructose, calorie free sweeteners? Do you do strength training & cardio? Are you overweight? Is your waist to hip ratio ideal for your gender? Do you monitor your blood glucose? Get 8 hours of sleep consistently? Avoid stress? Do not live close to a highway / live in a place with high air quality? Get consistent screening for issues that your family has to catch them early? Get enough sunshine? Re…

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Do you avoid sugar, fructose, calorie free sweeteners? Do you do strength training & cardio? Are you overweight? Is your waist to hip ratio ideal for your gender? Do you monitor your blood glucose? Get 8 hours of sleep consistently? Avoid stress? Do not live close to a highway / live in a place with high air quality? Get consistent screening for issues that your family has to catch them early? Get enough sunshine? Re…

This is a great list. What is the truth about wine?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_effects_of_wine

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you avoid sugar, fructose, calorie free sweeteners? Do you do strength training & cardio? Are you overweight? Is your waist to hip ratio ideal for your gender? Do you monitor your blood glucose? Get 8 hours of sleep consistently? Avoid stress? Do not live close to a highway / live in a place with high air quality? Get consistent screening for issues that your family has to catch them early? Get enough sunshine? Re…

This is a great list. What is the truth about wine?

Red wine contains resveratrol that have anti-aging effect on mice. To get effective dose of resveratrol, you would have to drink unhealthy amount of wine, which beats the purpose. You may google David Sinclair talks, he talks about resveratrol, NMN and metformin.

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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I find majority of anti-aging articles to be way too optimistic. Consider the following: We still cannot treat many well understood diseases, including tuberous sclerosis, allergies, asthma, etc. We don't know the exact cause of multiple sclerosis, Parkinson's disease, type 2 diabetes, etc, despite studying those diseases for decades. We can't help you keep the color of your hair or regrow your missing teeth, despite…

The key is regrowing teeth and keeping hair colour..because that’s the crux of rejevenuation.

One of the crudest forms of medicine is dentistry. It’s a very brute force method of replacing lost parts. Teeth are the extension of our bodies and it’s connected to every aspect of life.

It’s similar to a living organ and is the sum total of our health. And what do we do with tooth loss? We replace it cosmetically and functionally.

We don’t see any other use for it. If we consider teeth regeneration like growing ourselves a kidney instead of a kidney transplant.(or heart), that would be the day anti ageing is in our sights.

But we have to first consider the problem and label it properly. It is known that plaque in teeth is indicative of heart plaque. Dental infections can get into the blood stream. Cavities point to other issues too. Dental health starts with gum health.

And yet..the remedy is not changing life style or eating habits or research into rejuvenation. But we knock them out and stick a ceramic one. Imagine if we stuck a silicone heart or a kidney like one would a breast implant. That’s the equivalent of fake teeth that is drilled and screwed to the jaw bone.

If we figure out how to regrow our teeth, half the battle is won.

Re: Anti-Aging: State of the Art

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As someone already totally on board with ending aging, I found this article not terribly helpful. My main questions are "what should I be doing right now to stop my own body from aging?" and "when will more stuff be available for me to do that is not currently?" The article didn't help much in this regard. As far as I can tell, there are a number of clinical trials I should watch to see if those drugs work in humans?…

> when will more stuff be available for me to do that is not currently?

I like this list of drugs that are on the horizon: https://www.lifespan.io/road-maps/the-rejuvenation-roadmap/

(Phase 1-3 means it is being tested in humans.)

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