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Re: Silicon Valley's hunger problems grow during a time of record profits

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Post by rmrfstar » Sun, Dec 27, 2020, 5:57 AM UTC

jonny_eh wrote: post #30

rmrfstar wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're either naive or dishonest. FAAMG actively lobby Congress to create and preserve "loopholes" which are actually intentional features of the tax code rather than unforeseen errors. Apple is also lobbying against a very popular anti-slavery bill. #ESG

Right, that was my point. In the end it's the responsibility of politicians to do their job and close the loopholes. How can we expect corporations to be moral if elected officials won't?

So Apple corruptly bribes Congress to give it legislative benefits, Congress corruptly accepts those bribes, and the blame lies solely with Congress? That's one way of looking at things.

Re: Silicon Valley's hunger problems grow during a time of record profits

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Post by netizen-9748 » Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 3:13 AM UTC

rmrfstar wrote: post #31

jonny_eh wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, that was my point. In the end it's the responsibility of politicians to do their job and close the loopholes. How can we expect corporations to be moral if elected officials won't?

So Apple corruptly bribes Congress to give it legislative benefits, Congress corruptly accepts those bribes, and the blame lies solely with Congress? That's one way of looking at things.

While I agree that companies shouldn't be corrupt, I think the idea is that our system is supposed to be designed to prevent corruption and bribery on the government side and that appears to have failed.

Re: Silicon Valley's hunger problems grow during a time of record profits

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Post by jonny_eh » Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 7:10 PM UTC

rmrfstar wrote: post #31

jonny_eh wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right, that was my point. In the end it's the responsibility of politicians to do their job and close the loopholes. How can we expect corporations to be moral if elected officials won't?

So Apple corruptly bribes Congress to give it legislative benefits, Congress corruptly accepts those bribes, and the blame lies solely with Congress? That's one way of looking at things.

> Congress corruptly accepts those bribes, and the blame lies solely with Congress?

Well, ya. It's their job to not be corrupt.

Re: Silicon Valley's hunger problems grow during a time of record profits

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Post by dragonwriter » Mon, Dec 28, 2020, 7:18 PM UTC

jonny_eh wrote: post #30

rmrfstar wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're either naive or dishonest. FAAMG actively lobby Congress to create and preserve "loopholes" which are actually intentional features of the tax code rather than unforeseen errors. Apple is also lobbying against a very popular anti-slavery bill. #ESG

Right, that was my point. In the end it's the responsibility of politicians to do their job and close the loopholes. How can we expect corporations to be moral if elected officials won't?

> How can we expect corporations to be moral if elected officials won't?

How can we expect figureheads elected in elections conducted in an environment of unlimited corporate propaganda to be moral if the actual ruling class of capitalist society, the capitalists acting directly and through their employees—e.g., via corporations—won’t?