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Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by ipnon »

pstrateman wrote: post #24
ipnon wrote: post #20

As alleged, the defendant was an active agent of the CCP and PRC intelligence[a] working inside an American company to deny the rights of freedom of speech and religion to residents of America.[b] The PRC is willfully breaking American law to disenfranchise Americans of their constitutional rights. [a] “The allegations in the complaint lay bare the Faustian bargain that the PRC government demands of U.S. technology c…

Zoom is materially a Chinese company. CEO is Chinese, staff are mostly Chinese.

CEO is an American citizen[0], Zoom is headquartered in San Jose[1] and listed on NASDAQ.[2]

[0] https://blog.zoom.us/navigating-a-new-chapter-for-zoom/

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Video_Communications

[2] https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/zm

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by vatueil »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #19
derision wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An executive is not quite a "single rogue employee"

If it's a single executive, and the executive is a rogue, then it is exactly a single rogue employee. Also, although it's beside the point from the perspective of whether what I said is true, I read the complaint. It's not clear if this guy was an executive executive, or an account "executive" (i.e. a low-level administrator). I'm inclined to believe the latter based on the actions he is alleged to have taken.

According to the Washington Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/12/18/zoom-he...

> Prosecutors said the China-based executive, Xinjiang Jin, worked as Zoom’s primary liaison with Chinese law enforcement and intelligence services, sharing user information and terminating video calls at the Chinese government’s request.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by cwwc »

The most BA conspiracy would be if the CCP thought about releasing a virus and said to themselves “hey, what will everyone need in a pandemic? Videoconference!” They funded Zoom, then released the virus and boom - they suddenly have access to every company and academic discussion out there.

If I plotting things, that’s how I’d do it at least. But alas reality isn’t a Bond film.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by mey »

vyrotek wrote: post #6

What other platforms compete with Zoom with comparable API integrations? We need features including: OAuth, Meeting scheduling, meeting link generation (without requiring user accounts), managing recordings, meeting status webhooks, etc. https://marketplace.zoom.us/docs/api-reference/zoom-api

Microsoft Teams might have you covered, including potentially your API needs. https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/graph/choose-online-meeting...

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by spoonjim »

ipnon wrote: post #31
pstrateman wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoom is materially a Chinese company. CEO is Chinese, staff are mostly Chinese.

CEO is an American citizen[0], Zoom is headquartered in San Jose[1] and listed on NASDAQ.[2] [0] https://blog.zoom.us/navigating-a-new-chapter-for-zoom/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Video_Communications [2] https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/zm

Clearly Zoom is on paper American but functions as a party organ of the CCP. That should make you curious about what other companies, or individuals working at companies, might be analogous.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by _etyf »

The executive fabricated illegal user activity on Zoom, to include distribution of child pornography, falsely attributed to opponents of China’s Communist Party:

>Jin’s co-conspirators created fake email accounts and Company-1 accounts in the names of others, including PRC political dissidents, to fabricate evidence that the hosts of and participants in the meetings to commemorate the Tiananmen Square massacre were supporting terrorist organizations, inciting violence or distributing child pornography.

Imagine if it had been you. Imagine if you logged into a Tiananmen Square Massacre commemoration from your couch in Sunnyvale, and days or weeks later, American police knocked down your door and arrested you in front of your family for distribution of child pornography. Imagine going to trial against a prosecutor armed with “authentic” Zoom logs of your criminal activity.

The potential for this type of attack does not only exist within Zoom.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by wil421 »

cwwc wrote: post #33

The most BA conspiracy would be if the CCP thought about releasing a virus and said to themselves “hey, what will everyone need in a pandemic? Videoconference!” They funded Zoom, then released the virus and boom - they suddenly have access to every company and academic discussion out there. If I plotting things, that’s how I’d do it at least. But alas reality isn’t a Bond film.

Why would you fund a “tech” company when you could corner the market on PPE? According to my local news a company told the federal government the US lack N95 manufacturing.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by spoonjim »

jariel wrote: post #14

The real issue is how such a fundamentally important thing - video communications - isn't rock solid and a commodity by now such that any of FAANG, Verizon/AT&T and a host of others don't provide it as easy as anything else. Imagine if you thought CCP were reading your emails? Would your company/school/government use that service? I don't think so. Having supply chain problems for ASICS is one thing. But 'video confe…

First of all, video conferencing is one of the most challenging software products to deliver, at the latencies that people expect and the price they're typically willing to pay. It's not a CRUD app.

Second, F, A, A, G, and M do provide rock solid video conferencing. Apple being the most rock solid of all of them, but limited to Apple devices.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by pstrateman »

ipnon wrote: post #31
pstrateman wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zoom is materially a Chinese company. CEO is Chinese, staff are mostly Chinese.

CEO is an American citizen[0], Zoom is headquartered in San Jose[1] and listed on NASDAQ.[2] [0] https://blog.zoom.us/navigating-a-new-chapter-for-zoom/ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoom_Video_Communications [2] https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/zm

If you think someone born in China who hires Chinese people in China to do all the engineering work isn't still Chinese then you haven't been paying much attention to how the CCP operates.

Re: Zoom executive charged with disrupting meetings commemorating Tiananmen Square

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Post by jtdev »

vyrotek wrote: post #6

What other platforms compete with Zoom with comparable API integrations? We need features including: OAuth, Meeting scheduling, meeting link generation (without requiring user accounts), managing recordings, meeting status webhooks, etc. https://marketplace.zoom.us/docs/api-reference/zoom-api

Google Meet
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