Mark Zuckerberg condemned for giving $75M to a San Francisco hospital • Hacker News Board

Re: Mark Zuckerberg condemned for giving $75M to a San Francisco hospital

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Post by jka » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 4:13 AM UTC

ericmay wrote: post #25

jka wrote: post #18

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>>> e: Politics in San Francisco are out of control. In my estimation from afar it's like the liberal version of the colloquial Alabama conservative politics. >> j: Let's start by assuming that the city has a reason for their stance; as I assume you do for thinking that politics in the city is out of control. > e: Not really sure what you're trying to get at here. Just trying to encourage reasoning about viewpoints d…

> Just trying to encourage reasoning about viewpoints different to your own. Great. Thanks. Always a good thing for people to do and we need more of that. I wouldn’t say it’s warranted here, however, because I can see viewpoints and also think they are “out of control”. (Just a term of convenience so please don’t read too much into that specific way of phrasing things). For example, I can see good intentions or the v…

Likewise, thanks - that makes sense, and those are (in both examples) policies that outsiders probably find mind-bending.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg condemned for giving $75M to a San Francisco hospital

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Post by nopzor » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 11:59 AM UTC

southeastern wrote: post #27

nopzor wrote: post #20

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"we are thankful for the money you gave us in exchange for agreeing to naming rights. but it's unreasonable that we should have to give you the naming rights that we agreed to as a condition of taking your money" does that seem more or less unreasonable? because as far as i can tell, that's what happened.

Hospitals are hurting right now. They cant do elective surgeries which is what their profit is made. Without that they're financials black holes. Zuckerberg is coming in at a dire time with his request of 50 years of naming rights. Does he owe the hospital anything? No, just like no one owes those sick and dying patients anything. But it's not unfair to point out the thorn on this 'rose'.

the original deal happened in 2015.

i’m not a fan of zuckerberg by any means, but in this case i maintain it is disingenuous on the part of the hospital.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg condemned for giving $75M to a San Francisco hospital

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Post by anoncake » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 2:48 PM UTC

If you give someone money in exchange for something, that's called a purchase, not a donation. Zuckerberg did not make a donation, he bought the naming rights to the hospital.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg condemned for giving $75M to a San Francisco hospital

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Post by mthoms » Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 4:58 PM UTC

sfashset wrote: post #30

mthoms wrote: post #28

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You may well be correct, but I'm unable to find anything confirming it. Do you have a source? The linked article says removing the name would require returning the money per the terms of the contract and " the hospital agreed in 2015 when it accepted the $75 million that it would keep the Zuckerberg name for at least 50 years. " Another article [0] says "[...] Zuckerberg SF General Hospital, a name the Zuckerberg-Cha…

The quoted text is just a journalist trying to use a cute metaphor. Anyway, here are two Bay Area journalists who discussed this a few years ago when this topic first came up: https://twitter.com/SovernNation/status/1067938730940411904 https://twitter.com/natogreen/status/1068204834992480256

Thanks for that.

I still find it curious that according to the contract, they would have to give the money back if they change the name. At least thats whats being reported.