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How are we not out of IPv4 addresses already? Aren't there a billion phones out there? And probably the same number of PCs and god knows how many servers?
I’m more surprised that a single IP address is worth $20 apparently than Amazon owning 100 million of them. What I wonder, is it a competitive advantage for Amazon at this point that they have so many? Phrased differently, would it benefit Amazon if the current status quo of IPv4 vs IPv6 adoption is maintained?
Yes, I think it would. Because despite the obvious business advantage they have, any would-be competitor would need IPs at a similar scale. That will either cost a ton more than Amazon has, or they simply won’t be available. I own 2048 IPv4’s myself and their value is ever increasing. Like digital real estate, without the fluctuation of crypto. But I would prefer it if IPv6 would take over IPv4, and fast, because it…
Looking at something like https://bgp.he.net/AS32934#_prefixes will tell you what IPs Facebook announces. Rinse and repeat for whoever else. Maybe a bit tricky if you need to track down subsidiary ASes.
Disclosure: I worked for WhatsApp including while it was part of Facebook, and was involved in getting AS11917 setup for WhatsApp.
From what I understand the problem with IPv6 isn't technical problems it is with legacy. According to what I know in Africa and Asia they have mostly already been running on IPv6 the problem is just basically a bunch of lazy network admins in NA and the EU that don't want to learn the new tech and organizations that don't want to switch.
[1] https://www.datacenterknowledge.com/sites/datacenterknowledg...
From what I understand the problem with IPv6 isn't technical problems it is with legacy. According to what I know in Africa and Asia they have mostly already been running on IPv6 the problem is just basically a bunch of lazy network admins in NA and the EU that don't want to learn the new tech and organizations that don't want to switch.
Well, yes, legacy. But, > …a bunch of lazy network admins in NA and the EU that don't want to learn the new tech… That’s a cheap shot, and it’s not called for. Network admins are paid to make the networks run. Anything else is less important. If your IPv6 network experiences some small problems, well, you’re going to hold on to IPv4 because small network problems can mean big inefficiencies or lost sales. Just a few…
I’d be curious how that compares to other cloud providers.
Almost all of them list their IP ranges. I went and ran the numbers on DO's, available from: http://digitalocean.com/geo/google.csv 2,344,576 IPs, so ~47mm on the same math.
7,580,928
So ~151mm, on the same math.
I’m more surprised that a single IP address is worth $20 apparently than Amazon owning 100 million of them. What I wonder, is it a competitive advantage for Amazon at this point that they have so many? Phrased differently, would it benefit Amazon if the current status quo of IPv4 vs IPv6 adoption is maintained?
One of the few examples of “the more of them you have for sale, the more they’re worth”
Earlier quoted context omitted.
Almost all of them list their IP ranges. I went and ran the numbers on DO's, available from: http://digitalocean.com/geo/google.csv 2,344,576 IPs, so ~47mm on the same math.
And for Google's from: https://www.gstatic.com/ipranges/cloud.json 7,580,928 So ~151mm, on the same math.
I’m more surprised that a single IP address is worth $20 apparently than Amazon owning 100 million of them. What I wonder, is it a competitive advantage for Amazon at this point that they have so many? Phrased differently, would it benefit Amazon if the current status quo of IPv4 vs IPv6 adoption is maintained?
I've seen some VM providers charge more to get an instance with IPv4 connectivity. Amazon doesn't charge extra for that (last I looked anyway), so that's a potential advantage. IPv6 penetration is growing, but Akamai reports that even the most IPv6 networks only go to ~ 92% IPv6. So if you want to have full reach, you need IPv4, but you don't really need IPv6 (although, you may want it, some of the CGNAT systems that…
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