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Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by bvcvbuiy »

mantap wrote: post #24
fowlie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

A lot more than with SMS. You can send someone an SMS but they are not going to respond because either they cost money or they have some tiny allowance of them.

Where I live mobile plans include unlimited SMS.

Also I have a dumbphone and I am the only person my friend send SMS too. That makes me quite a unique person !

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by avh02 »

florianmari wrote: post #25

It's not only Facebook, a lot of services, Deezer, some operators in France... https://downdetector.fr/

i'm not necessarily familiar with all the services (or the specific dependencies) on that list, but a lot of it will be a knock on effect from e.g: fb login not working as expected

People will very often see it as "service x with fb login is broken"

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

bitcharmer wrote: post #9
georgeolaru wrote: post #5

Back to SMS.

Why? Is messenger your only option? I personally don't use Messenger but there's still WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc.

Signal can also function as SMS client on Android, so it's easy to communicate with those who have Signal or use plain SMS; besides additional hardening against SMS based exploits.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by florianmari »

avh02 wrote: post #33
florianmari wrote: post #25

It's not only Facebook, a lot of services, Deezer, some operators in France... https://downdetector.fr/

i'm not necessarily familiar with all the services (or the specific dependencies) on that list, but a lot of it will be a knock on effect from e.g: fb login not working as expected People will very often see it as "service x with fb login is broken"

I work in one of these companies and I can confirm that is a network outage and even our internal tools hosted in our datacenter (so no dependencies with fb) are down

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by l1ghthouse »

LeonM wrote: post #15
fowlie wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How many people can you reach with WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, Messenger? How many people can you reach with SMS? Relevant XKCD: https://xkcd.com/2365

In Europe, Whatsapp is ubiquitous. FB Messenger and iMessage are pretty rare here. Edit: looks like I was wrong. I'm in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands and our neighbouring countries, Whatsapp is ubiquitous, so I presumed the rest of Europe was the same. I guess this proves that assumption is the mother of all failures.

Im also from The Netherlands. I don't use whatsapp at all... (for me its a bliss and removes the group chats insanity)

iMessage and Telegram covers everyone I know.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by avh02 »

florianmari wrote: post #35
avh02 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i'm not necessarily familiar with all the services (or the specific dependencies) on that list, but a lot of it will be a knock on effect from e.g: fb login not working as expected People will very often see it as "service x with fb login is broken"

I work in one of these companies and I can confirm that is a network outage and even our internal tools hosted in our datacenter (so no dependencies with fb) are down

I stand corrected :)

Any info on what network/operator/operator/etc is suffering the issue? (just so people know about it if it's public, i don't see anything on HN at least)

Thanks, and good luck!

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by pimterry »

pqs wrote: post #19
LeonM wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Europe, Whatsapp is ubiquitous. FB Messenger and iMessage are pretty rare here. Edit: looks like I was wrong. I'm in the Netherlands. In the Netherlands and our neighbouring countries, Whatsapp is ubiquitous, so I presumed the rest of Europe was the same. I guess this proves that assumption is the mother of all failures.

Europe is very heterogeneous. I'm sure social network usage is very different in Lithuania, Bulgaria, Spain, Norway or the UK.

As a Brit living in Spain I can cover half of those, and in both Spain & UK whatsapp is absolutely everywhere.

In Spain in fact it's ridiculous - surveys show approx 97% of the population saying they use it regularly (https://www.messengerpeople.com/global-messenger-usage-stati...).

https://english.elpais.com/elpais/2015/02/16/inenglish/14240... has some interesting background on why. I suspect also the fact that Latin America tends to use whatsapp quite heavily (https://www.messengerpeople.com/global-messenger-usage-stati...) probably makes a difference too.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by darren_ »

raziel2p wrote: post #28
darren_ wrote: post #27

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> How many people can you reach with SMS? Essentially no-one as we've all stopped trading actual phone numbers years ago.

Eh, most messengers use phone number as the primary identifier these days. Whether I use Telegram, Signal or WhatsApp, I add people using their phone number. In the last 3 years or so I can think of one exception where someone preferred Discord but I still got their phone number as a "backup".

Over here it's either LINE (does support adding by number but can't remember the last time I used that, literally years) or FB/Instagram.
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