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Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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For God's sakes ... What underpins this need for social media companies to virtue signal about protecting 'election integrity' is the false notion that 2016 was stolen from Hillary by the Russians - a claim that had no evidential support (and no, that some trolls bought a minuscule amount of Facebook ads does not raise this claim to that level) but the entire Democratic party, with media allies, promulgated for the l…

Still going on about boogieman Hillary 4 years later. You've just proven why YouTube needs to take these steps, time to step out of your alt-right bubble.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#33

I abhor this, but what can be done about it? I genuinely don't know how to push back against measures like these and I'm hoping people here have some ideas.

If your favorite channels are on BitChute or Rumble, support them there instead.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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post #32

For God's sakes ... What underpins this need for social media companies to virtue signal about protecting 'election integrity' is the false notion that 2016 was stolen from Hillary by the Russians - a claim that had no evidential support (and no, that some trolls bought a minuscule amount of Facebook ads does not raise this claim to that level) but the entire Democratic party, with media allies, promulgated for the l…

Still going on about boogieman Hillary 4 years later. You've just proven why YouTube needs to take these steps, time to step out of your alt-right bubble.

I'll be monitoring this post by "puppet" to make sure that "dang" removes it the way he removes all posts that are remotely anti-narrative (leftist).

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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For God's sakes ... What underpins this need for social media companies to virtue signal about protecting 'election integrity' is the false notion that 2016 was stolen from Hillary by the Russians - a claim that had no evidential support (and no, that some trolls bought a minuscule amount of Facebook ads does not raise this claim to that level) but the entire Democratic party, with media allies, promulgated for the l…

You are mis-stating the assertion. The Government said that Russia had meddled in the 2016 election. They didn't say it changed the results.

No, Democrats said Russia hacked the election results. For example Neera Tanden, Biden's OMB appointee, the President of a major liberal think-tank: https://twitter.com/neeratanden/status/817744398939197442

Trump claimed that "Voting machines were not touched" by Russians in the 2016 election. Tanden said that was a "lie." The media massively amplified claims of Russian election hacking that never panned out: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/01/us/politics/russia-electi.... They played fast-and-loose with terminology, saying that "Russia hacked the 2016 election" when they meant that Russia hacked and leaked DNC emails. (Part of the problem here is that the media has taken to regurgitating Democratic talking points. Saying "Russia hacked the 2016 election" is a clever way for an Democratic activist to describe what happened, but its misleading when that same "hacking" terminology is used by the media.)

Nalder said that, without impeachment, Trump would "rig" the 2020 election: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-08/nadler-sa...

And people believed them. Even as of 2018, 66% of Democrats believed that "Russia tampered with vote tallies in order to get Donald Trump elected President": https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/20...

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#36

For God's sakes ... What underpins this need for social media companies to virtue signal about protecting 'election integrity' is the false notion that 2016 was stolen from Hillary by the Russians - a claim that had no evidential support (and no, that some trolls bought a minuscule amount of Facebook ads does not raise this claim to that level) but the entire Democratic party, with media allies, promulgated for the l…

I guess the difference between 2016 and 2020 outcomes is that democrats at least didn't create any ruckus during the power transfer from Obama to Trump . Plus, since the Democrats did it , the Republicans have a right to create a bigger ruckus is not justified. Also the Russian interference was more about social media influence rather than raising questions on election or voter integrity. A lot of Trump supporters ar…

>I guess the difference between 2016 and 2020 outcomes is that democrats at least didn't create any ruckus during the power transfer from Obama to Trump

Crossfire Hurricane wasn't enough of a ruckus?

It came out recently that Eric Swalwell was targeted by a Chinese spy, but cut ties after a 'defensive briefing' by the FBI. Hillary's campaign also received a 'defensive briefing' in 2015 when a foreign government tried to influence her campaign through a campaign associate. Trump's campaign never got one, instead FBI ordered an investigation on the flimsies grounds and outright lies to the FISA courts (and what turned out to be opo-research funded by the Hillary campaign and promulgating actual Russian disinformation)..

And then the next four years had Hillary going around saying explicitly that Trump is not a legitimate president - a claim not challenged by media and echoed by the Democrats. The media itself kept pushing the discredit Steele dossier throughout that time. So I do roll my eyes when political activists in the Democratic party and media are now all about 'election integrity' after what they did to the trust in the system over the last 4 years. And I'm not really worried about Trump bitching on Twitter and putting out lawsuits (as is his right), as some threat to Democracy.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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>Connecting people to authoritative information

Top channels from picture. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com

ABC: Left of Center

NBC: Left of Center

USA today: Left of Center

CNN: Left

CBS: Left of Center

The "Authoritative Sources" are all Left-wing news agencies. So in other words they have done like Wikipedia. They have determined that Left of Center is authoritative and have limited the reach of alternative viewpoints.

Their right to control political speech on their platform.

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#38

For God's sakes ... What underpins this need for social media companies to virtue signal about protecting 'election integrity' is the false notion that 2016 was stolen from Hillary by the Russians - a claim that had no evidential support (and no, that some trolls bought a minuscule amount of Facebook ads does not raise this claim to that level) but the entire Democratic party, with media allies, promulgated for the l…

I guess the difference between 2016 and 2020 outcomes is that democrats at least didn't create any ruckus during the power transfer from Obama to Trump . Plus, since the Democrats did it , the Republicans have a right to create a bigger ruckus is not justified. Also the Russian interference was more about social media influence rather than raising questions on election or voter integrity. A lot of Trump supporters ar…

Democrats didn't try to flip the election by having Trump's electors vote for someone else due to Russian interference? https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/06/us/politics/democrats-att...

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

#39
20 years ago reputed organizations such as newspapers, radio stations and television informed people the truth. Conspiracy theories were fringe and didn't have a way to spread.

Today more than half the population believes in conspiracy theories because they learn the "truth" from disreputable sources on social media. This is dangerous for society.

I am glad social media companies are taking action themselves, instead of the government forcing them (which would be a 1st amendment issue).

Re: YouTube to remove content that alleges widespread election fraud

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post #32

For God's sakes ... What underpins this need for social media companies to virtue signal about protecting 'election integrity' is the false notion that 2016 was stolen from Hillary by the Russians - a claim that had no evidential support (and no, that some trolls bought a minuscule amount of Facebook ads does not raise this claim to that level) but the entire Democratic party, with media allies, promulgated for the l…

Still going on about boogieman Hillary 4 years later. You've just proven why YouTube needs to take these steps, time to step out of your alt-right bubble.

YouTube IS taking these steps, so don't worry about that. They aren't waiting for me to prove to them anything.

Reminds me of the exchange between William Roper and Thomas More. After More balked at arresting someone who hasn't broken any laws, Roper stated that he'd "cut down every law in England" to get the Devil. More answered: "And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned 'round on you, where would you hide"

Once the tech and media conglomerates take the mantle of curation and censorship, it's only a matter of time before you run afoul and get dragged under as well. You feel safe now because you feel they share your political beliefs, but that will change.

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