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Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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That's what happens when you employ over-enthusiastic developers obsessed with their Javascript-framework-legacy. Things worked fast when HTML was the UI, and the logic was in the server.

I worked on a server rendered project in the 00s. There was a screen that took 7 minutes to render for about 100 list items. You can make anything slow if you really try.

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Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

I don't think it is just that. Google is just shockingly bad at web frontend. All their properties are terrible, except maybe Youtube which I find quite agreeable. For example I just made a search on google.com, the most popular website in the world, and it can't even fit the content into this reasonably sized window [1].

[1] https://i.imgur.com/ER5yfbd.png

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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It’s a real pain how slow it is. I’ve resorted to adding quick links to my bookmark bar for GCP products that I use often to get around the slowness.

I was happy with the old BigQuery UI and now they've finally moved it into the Cloud Console monstrosity :(

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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Atlassian Jira is dog slow too. Drives me nuts.

Atlassian is one of those places that I just can't believe has gotten so widely used. Every single thing I've used that is an Atlassian product drives me nuts. I really don't understand how anyone at any point looked at Jira or Confluence or anything Atlassian puts out and said "yep, this is the best version of this thing I've seen, sign me up". I've been using JIRA for years now, and it never gets any easier or bett…

As far as I understand it, it's because Jira is not made for developers. It's made for SCRUM and Project Managers that need fancy graphs and lots and lots of fields and processes. It's their reason for existence, so they have every incentive to make it so that developers do not understand.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

This is something that really concerns me about the new M1 based Macbooks. We as developers in the first world are very likely to be the first ones getting these, and this will make the gap with the average end user which usually does not have a mac a lot worse. I'm not far from imagining a non so distant distopic future where everyone just gets used to slow, laggy, clunky websites and applications. Oh... wait...

And their material UI is ugly.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

This is something that really concerns me about the new M1 based Macbooks. We as developers in the first world are very likely to be the first ones getting these, and this will make the gap with the average end user which usually does not have a mac a lot worse. I'm not far from imagining a non so distant distopic future where everyone just gets used to slow, laggy, clunky websites and applications. Oh... wait...

As a developer you should 1) have the fastest possible code / test cycle - i.e. it's worth overpaying for faster machines 2) treat performance as a feature and formally measure it across configurations

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

I don't think it is just that. Google is just shockingly bad at web frontend. All their properties are terrible, except maybe Youtube which I find quite agreeable. For example I just made a search on google.com, the most popular website in the world, and it can't even fit the content into this reasonably sized window [1]. [1] https://i.imgur.com/ER5yfbd.png

Which large companies aren't bad at web frontend? UX seems to always be far down on the list or priorities for modern websites.
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