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The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

tylorr wrote: post #3

Are there any cryptographic tools that would let you prove that that specific treasure has been found and not by the original hider? You could store a private key in the treasure and use that to verify a signature, but how do you prove that the original hider no longer has a copy of that private key?

Not really. The closest thing, and not foolproof, is to enlist a notary; have them verify and document the contents, seal it, note the location, then do the same in reverse when it's found and unsealed. But even then you cannot guarantee the finder wasn't told where to find it.

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

There's a ton of padding in this article to be honest; the tl;dr is that the guy that found it revealed his identity because of impending lawsuits, notably one who claimed her text messages and e-mails were hacked to spy on her ideas of where the treasure might be.

The rest of the article is just a ton of fluff, repeats, and padding. I for one would just like to know where the treasure was located in the end (and I don't understand why it's not just revealed, given that there's no treasure there anymore), and what was in it. Don't really care about who found it.

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by thatguy0900 »

tromp wrote: post #23
schoen wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had this funny feeling reading this, like "I've met these people before". Not literally the individual litigants or sore losers here, but people kind of like them. Then I remembered -- as I've mentioned a number of times here (including recently on the thread about the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search), I used to respond to https://www.eff.org/awards/coop e-mail. This is an award where EFF will give out monetar…

> If I then factored the resulting number, these people would then tweak the formula again and insist that they had fixed it. Along with each successive refutation, you should require them to include a cheque for double the last amount with their next fix, starting with a reasonable $25.

If people weren't upset at being refuted before they definetely would when they paid 25$+ for it, no way that would be worth the headache

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by ballenf »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #32

There's a ton of padding in this article to be honest; the tl;dr is that the guy that found it revealed his identity because of impending lawsuits, notably one who claimed her text messages and e-mails were hacked to spy on her ideas of where the treasure might be. The rest of the article is just a ton of fluff, repeats, and padding. I for one would just like to know where the treasure was located in the end (and I d…

The "fluff" of the article answers your questions quite well, imo:

1. The location is either unsafe or the route to get there is

2. The location would be a pilgrimage site and therefore at risk of being destroyed

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by PhantomGremlin »

hiimtroymclure wrote: post #4

America: The Land of Litigation

America: The Land of Litigation

The key to understanding (at least this particular case) is: The case ... was brought by a Chicago real estate attorney named Barbara Andersen

The key is that this attorney doesn't have to pay anyone to file the suit. She does it herself. She's working pro bono on behalf of herself. A lot less expensive to do it that way.

Maybe she's bored? Maybe she's developed a bad rep and can't make enough money as a real estate attorney? Maybe she just enjoys the lulz? At any rate, all it's costing her is some filing fees. She's probably not paying an attorney by the hour to advise her.

This type of shit would go away if there was something approximating true "loser pays" in USA court. Right now the guy would have to file a counter suit, hire an attorney, and hope he wins the counter suit. And then hope that the judge awards significant damages.

In the meantime he could wind up spending the entire worth of the treasure on legal fees. Too bad he studied to be a doctor instead of a lawyer. :)

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by therealcamino »

schoen wrote: post #13
hiimtroymclure wrote: post #4

America: The Land of Litigation

I had this funny feeling reading this, like "I've met these people before". Not literally the individual litigants or sore losers here, but people kind of like them. Then I remembered -- as I've mentioned a number of times here (including recently on the thread about the Great Internet Mersenne Prime Search), I used to respond to https://www.eff.org/awards/coop e-mail. This is an award where EFF will give out monetar…

Somewhere around "people who are motivated to follow the rules and norms of the game" this made me think of the US election...

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by Alex3917 »

gamblor956 wrote: post #18
gumby wrote: post #2

What a great story and what a shame that people try to ruin it. I wold have been glad for the finder if he had managed to stay anonymous.

It's a horrible story. Some rich idiot put a treasure box on public lands, resulting in significant amounts of damage to national parks and monuments and several deaths. It was ruined from the beginning and it's a damn shame Fenn is no longer around to be prosecuted for it.

Leaving treasure on public lands is allowed, otherwise geocaching would be illegal. Maybe not in a national park, but certainly in a national forest or multiuse area.

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by throw1234651234 »

gamblor956 wrote: post #18
gumby wrote: post #2

What a great story and what a shame that people try to ruin it. I wold have been glad for the finder if he had managed to stay anonymous.

It's a horrible story. Some rich idiot put a treasure box on public lands, resulting in significant amounts of damage to national parks and monuments and several deaths. It was ruined from the beginning and it's a damn shame Fenn is no longer around to be prosecuted for it.

Imagine not understanding that people want a little fun in their life.

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by snowwrestler »

gamblor956 wrote: post #18
gumby wrote: post #2

What a great story and what a shame that people try to ruin it. I wold have been glad for the finder if he had managed to stay anonymous.

It's a horrible story. Some rich idiot put a treasure box on public lands, resulting in significant amounts of damage to national parks and monuments and several deaths. It was ruined from the beginning and it's a damn shame Fenn is no longer around to be prosecuted for it.

Wild lands like national parks or public wilderness are places where a person can still experience risk from the natural world. That is a significant part of the whole point of having them. That’s what makes an outing an adventure and not just a pleasant stroll.

People don’t need a $1 million treasure to get themselves into trouble in the wild. It happens regularly for reasons as trivial as selfies or even just for the fun of it. It is good that there are still places where people can do that.

Re: The Man Who Found Forrest Fenn's Treasure

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Post by [deleted] »

gamblor956 wrote: post #18
gumby wrote: post #2

What a great story and what a shame that people try to ruin it. I wold have been glad for the finder if he had managed to stay anonymous.

It's a horrible story. Some rich idiot put a treasure box on public lands, resulting in significant amounts of damage to national parks and monuments and several deaths. It was ruined from the beginning and it's a damn shame Fenn is no longer around to be prosecuted for it.

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