Live data from Hacker News

How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

mtlynch.io

31–40 of 270 posts

Re: How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

#31

How is there no better way to track conversions in a standard way by a third party? This whole win relies on the fact that the affiliate manager let out the real policy. She could have just said that there were no conversions, and the author would basically have no recourse?

No post body was provided.

Re: How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

#32

> If they failed to pay, my plan was to file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission and reach out to other affiliates suggesting they do the same. Where do people get their info from to just go with a "time to contact the FTC"? If feels like the equivalent of people threatening they will contact the BBB. Depending on the amount (that was $88 per the screenshot?), that is something you take to small claims cour…

> Where do people get their info from to just go with a "time to contact the FTC"? If feels like the equivalent of people threatening they will contact the BBB. I'm well aware of how toothless and irrelevant BBB is these days. ("Yelp for old people"). Almost nobody visits BBB before making a decision, only after a bad experience. Given that, a business with a bad grade there probably doesn't feel much of a sting. But…

> I work in telecom, and complaints to the Public Utilities Commission are treated seriously within my company (and in the wider industry AFAIK). We really do not want customers to file any. When a customer mentions the PUC at all, we take them seriously enough to get some more eyes on their problem.

The consumer protection reporters for the new channel hanging around the headquarters also tend to grab a lot of attention in my experience. Happened once or twice that I remember where it was drop everything and solve the problem before the report goes out.

Re: How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

#35
post #24

I appreciate you actually naming the scumbags. It's tiresome how people are overly diplomatic these days.

Careful, you'll be accused of "cancel culture"!

Cancel culture is when you get canceled about having a different opinion, it has nothing to do with shady business practices.

Re: How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

#36
This piece has so many red flags. I'm surprised and somewhat disappointed it landed at #1 on HN.

(1) Why was all of this work worth $88 in the first place? As a talented writer who is at least presumably familiar with software engineering, he surely could have earned that money faster by other means.

(2) Why does he continue to work with merchants he himself describes as unscrupulous, in _affiliate marketing_?

My hunch is that he wrote this article specifically to appeal to the HN crowd (see patio11 quotes) in an attempt to get additional commissions from driving more sales to a vendor _he himself_ describes as unscrupulous.

Do better, HN.

Re: How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

#37
post #12

Added (small) side-effect from this post, as a keto person who loves Patrick’s advice: now I know never to give the Kiss My Keto assholes a dime, via your site or anyone else’s.

I suspect they’ve gotten a lot of custom out of this post, as there’ll be a non-zero number of people who think “ooh, keto bread delivery!”

Re: How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

#38
post #36

This piece has so many red flags. I'm surprised and somewhat disappointed it landed at #1 on HN. (1) Why was all of this work worth $88 in the first place? As a talented writer who is at least presumably familiar with software engineering, he surely could have earned that money faster by other means. (2) Why does he continue to work with merchants he himself describes as unscrupulous, in _affiliate marketing_? My hun…

Re #1: He talks about why a bit in the article. TL;DR: it was for the principle of it and an experiment.

He probably also wanted to burn the vendor/warn others.

Re #2: He didn’t. He states he ceased working with them after he recovered the $88.

Re: How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

#39
post #36

This piece has so many red flags. I'm surprised and somewhat disappointed it landed at #1 on HN. (1) Why was all of this work worth $88 in the first place? As a talented writer who is at least presumably familiar with software engineering, he surely could have earned that money faster by other means. (2) Why does he continue to work with merchants he himself describes as unscrupulous, in _affiliate marketing_? My hun…

The idea is to demonstrate a professional method for communicating with companies that are incompetent or otherwise untrustworthy. The amount of money involved and the business practices of the company with whom he is communicating is not strictly relevant.

Re: How I Collected a Debt from an Unscrupulous Merchant

#40
post #36

This piece has so many red flags. I'm surprised and somewhat disappointed it landed at #1 on HN. (1) Why was all of this work worth $88 in the first place? As a talented writer who is at least presumably familiar with software engineering, he surely could have earned that money faster by other means. (2) Why does he continue to work with merchants he himself describes as unscrupulous, in _affiliate marketing_? My hun…

Yeah this is a really awful article. Like "I can't believe it's not AI-generated" awful.
Post reply on HN