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US House passes federal cannabis decriminalisation bill

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Re: US House passes federal cannabis decriminalisation bill

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Great to see the worsening COVID crisis getting the attention it deserves...

The government is capable of multi-tasking. There are talks going on for continuing stimulus. Vaccines are now approved by the CDC and will roll out shortly. Plus, state & local governments are continuing to provide updates on the status of their hospitals.

COVID-19 is still a dedicated category on Google News, and other news sites. Nobody is ignoring it.

Re: US House passes federal cannabis decriminalisation bill

#32
post #15

2/3 of Americans support legalizing cannabis. I don’t understand why this bill is so bipartisan among politicians if so many citizens support it.

I assume you mean "partisan"?

It's because the people who want it will still vote for you if you keep it criminalized. But a significant number of the ones who want it to stay criminalized will totally write you off if you decriminalize it.

In the US, how motivated people are is usually even more important than how many of them there are. Combine that fact with the electoral college and gerrymandering, and there is a constant threat of minority rule.

EDIT: Private prisons. Can't believe I forgot about that. Everyone else who replied has got the main reason nailed.

Re: US House passes federal cannabis decriminalisation bill

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> It includes measures to expunge the federal criminal records of those charged or convicted for non-violent cannabis offenses I feel this line is what'll cause the bill to not pass in the Senate. I don't see why the removal of cannabis from the scheduled drugs list needs to be coupled with criminal record expungement. Do one. Then move to do the next. Is this how things are usually done?

Yes, often even intentionally to reduce the changes of a bill passing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrecking_amendment

Re: US House passes federal cannabis decriminalisation bill

#35

> It includes measures to expunge the federal criminal records of those charged or convicted for non-violent cannabis offenses I feel this line is what'll cause the bill to not pass in the Senate. I don't see why the removal of cannabis from the scheduled drugs list needs to be coupled with criminal record expungement. Do one. Then move to do the next. Is this how things are usually done?

> Is this how things are usually done?

Yes, you pack the politically tenuous stuff in with the widely supported stuff so you put the opposing side in an optically bad position if they reject it.

The headlines will be “Senate rejects marijuana decriminalization bill supported by majority of population” rather than “Senate rejects criminal record expungement”.

Politics are fucked in this country.

Re: US House passes federal cannabis decriminalisation bill

#36
post #15

2/3 of Americans support legalizing cannabis. I don’t understand why this bill is so bipartisan among politicians if so many citizens support it.

Isn't it what "bipartisan" usually means? When both parties find common ground? I would expect most laws widely supported by the population to be part of a bipartisan situation.

Re: US House passes federal cannabis decriminalisation bill

#37
post #15

2/3 of Americans support legalizing cannabis. I don’t understand why this bill is so bipartisan among politicians if so many citizens support it.

Wild accusation: Follow the money. There are a lot of people making a lot of money off of private prisons, generally in red states.

Alcohol manufactures have also dumped massive amounts of money in lobbying against marijuana decriminalization because they don't want the competition.

Re: US House passes federal cannabis decriminalisation bill

#39

> It includes measures to expunge the federal criminal records of those charged or convicted for non-violent cannabis offenses I feel this line is what'll cause the bill to not pass in the Senate. I don't see why the removal of cannabis from the scheduled drugs list needs to be coupled with criminal record expungement. Do one. Then move to do the next. Is this how things are usually done?

The problem is you would have people doing 5-20 (or whatever) for something that is no longer illegal. It seems unfair, so when the law is changed like this I think it’s common to adjust the sentences of people currently in prison.
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