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Re: Bitcoin app rejected by Apple

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"Again we're running into the geeks-trying-to-understand-the-law problem -- they always expect the law to be as sensible and self-consistent as geometry." Well, there's only one solution then—we need to get more geeks in office. Edit: Real geeks, not the "I own an iPad" that passes for geekery in Washington.

It's not a problem requiring a solution, it's merely an observation. If a bunch of over-logical geeks were to sit down and try to draft a new set of laws which were completely unambiguous and free of arbitrary cutoffs and nonequivalent treatment of equivalent situations then they'd never even get past questions like "Precisely how far from the end of my nose does your right to swing a fist end?"

Nah, they'd do an analysis and say that it ends at exactly 1 cm away from the end of one's nose or whatever.

Then people would complain that it wasn't fair, because they intended to stop at 1 cm, but actually stopped at 0.99 cm and that should be close enough. And then someone would try to drag relativity into play and question what reference frame we should be measuring that 1 cm in and things would go downhill from there.

Re: Bitcoin app rejected by Apple

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Why not just build this as a web app instead of a native iPhone app?

Well, you could, but that would leave your wallet (containing all your BitCoins) at a remote server, removing much of the point of Bitcoin. It would be just another Paypal basically (although you would be able to send the money between different "Bitcoin-PayPals" without a fee). It would also make it much harder to send Bitcoins to other devices/people. With a native app you could for example detect other Bitcoin cli…

Check out MyBitcoin. Something like this is actually very useful. The wallet on the remote server can (and should) just be a temporary transfer; send to mybtc or a similar service on sale, transfer out to a private wallet once a day, etc. Then, when you want to buy something, mail to your mybtc account, and then to the vendor you want to buy from. Only one extra step and still much more convenient than typing in a btc address.

Re: Bitcoin app rejected by Apple

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post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Again we're running into the geeks-trying-to-understand-the-law problem -- they always expect the law to be as sensible and self-consistent as geometry." Well, there's only one solution then—we need to get more geeks in office. Edit: Real geeks, not the "I own an iPad" that passes for geekery in Washington.

It's not a problem requiring a solution, it's merely an observation. If a bunch of over-logical geeks were to sit down and try to draft a new set of laws which were completely unambiguous and free of arbitrary cutoffs and nonequivalent treatment of equivalent situations then they'd never even get past questions like "Precisely how far from the end of my nose does your right to swing a fist end?"

Without arguing with your specific wording of "completely unambiguous and free of arbitrary cutoffs etc.", I think the implicit point you're making that a group of highly intelligent people couldn't sit down and come up with a significantly better new set of laws "from scratch" is wrong. I think they could, if that were their only aim, vastly improve laws and government with a noticeable improvement on average quality of life in the world. The obvious problems and the reason this won't likely happen soon are politics, power, trust, etc.

Re: Bitcoin app rejected by Apple

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a problem requiring a solution, it's merely an observation. If a bunch of over-logical geeks were to sit down and try to draft a new set of laws which were completely unambiguous and free of arbitrary cutoffs and nonequivalent treatment of equivalent situations then they'd never even get past questions like "Precisely how far from the end of my nose does your right to swing a fist end?"

Nah, they'd do an analysis and say that it ends at exactly 1 cm away from the end of one's nose or whatever. Then people would complain that it wasn't fair, because they intended to stop at 1 cm, but actually stopped at 0.99 cm and that should be close enough. And then someone would try to drag relativity into play and question what reference frame we should be measuring that 1 cm in and things would go downhill from…

Right, because while you and I are able to see absurdity of that, these super intelligent geeks you have in mind wouldn't be able to.

Re: Bitcoin app rejected by Apple

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Trying to release a Bitcoin app on Apple's app store may preclude cautionary tales of how not to get noticed. Bringing something like this into the mainstream could otherwise be hazardous to a protocol and community that are just beginning to bloom. Perhaps this mobile market isn't ready for such a powerful application.

Bitcoin was covered on CNN recently. The days of "don't talk about Bitcoin" are already over.

Re: Bitcoin app rejected by Apple

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This really should not be a surprise to anyone. If Bitcoin is not already illegal (and I have reason to believe it is due to most states' money transmitter laws), it's almost guaranteed that it will be soon.

Rather than reinventing this discussion poorly, I encourage everyone to read the paper first: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=1817857

Re: Bitcoin app rejected by Apple

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post #38

Trying to release a Bitcoin app on Apple's app store may preclude cautionary tales of how not to get noticed. Bringing something like this into the mainstream could otherwise be hazardous to a protocol and community that are just beginning to bloom. Perhaps this mobile market isn't ready for such a powerful application.

Bitcoin was covered on CNN recently. The days of "don't talk about Bitcoin" are already over.

Keeps inflating the exchange rate at least.
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