Earlier quoted context omitted.
Using horses is also frowned upon...
Not in Europe
Giving horse meat to animals is a waste :-)
World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
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Re: World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
#32I hope this technology becomes affordable for people who breed chickens at home. I hate culling the male chickens.
Re: World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
#33It's very strange to kill male chicks, I'm eating capon instead of regular chicken nowadays because it has much more flavor and a better bite. If people would simply eat them more they also don't have to be killed. Castration is not super animal friendly though.
Capon is considered animal cruelty in many countries, so availability is an issue here. Aside from that I'm not sure how you imagine not killing the birds by eating them?
I'm simply stating that raising them to eat is better than just gassing them immediately. If you're against eating meat as a principle then it's probably pretty useless. But eating the less wanted meat or produce really helps preventing pollution through overproduction of food that is never eaten.
There are many people that think it's more ethical to kill a cow just for it's meat than to eat the meat of a horse, which is never bred just for it's meat.
Both capon and horse meat are tastier than chicken and veal.
Re: World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
#34I've been buying no-kill eggs for years now, there are plenty of egg distributors that hatch two-use chickens, the males grow large enough to be edible, the females lay eggs. Available for years. I really don't see an advantage of this technology for the consumer, the real advantage lies with the producers.
> the males grow large enough to be edible, It would seem to me these are still killed. Lacto-ovo vegetarians might still prefer no-kill egg as shown in the article.
Unless the chickens are kept after they finish laying eggs, no commercial egg laying is no kill. Most battery or free range hens are killed (or if they're lucky, rescued for home use) at a year old as they approach their first moult.
Re: World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
#35It's very strange to kill male chicks, I'm eating capon instead of regular chicken nowadays because it has much more flavor and a better bite. If people would simply eat them more they also don't have to be killed. Castration is not super animal friendly though.
Egg laying hens are bred for different traits than the ones for meat. So the male chicks of egg laying hens would probably grow more slowly and to a smaller size than ones bred for meat. Thus their meat would be more expensive.
I have not considered that, good insight.
Re: World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
#36It's very strange to kill male chicks, I'm eating capon instead of regular chicken nowadays because it has much more flavor and a better bite. If people would simply eat them more they also don't have to be killed. Castration is not super animal friendly though.
Capon is considered animal cruelty in many countries, so availability is an issue here. Aside from that I'm not sure how you imagine not killing the birds by eating them?
Human ethics are tricky :-)
There's a lot more at play than just killing vs not killing. Some types of killing may be acceptable, and some may not. For example meat-eaters, which as you pointed, effectively kill animals, may disagree with other ways of killing - for example movies production or fur coats.
The most interesting case I've heard about this subject is in the movie Cannibal Holocaust. Among the other animals, two monkeys have been killed for script purposes, however, they have been eaten afterwards. Which are the ethics of this killing? There's no absolute answer¹
¹=I'm not implying, just exposing.
Re: World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
But you need to raise hens to get eggs. And if it turns out a rooster, you kill it instantly. This method avoids hatching the roosters.
It has often surprised me how many people don't understand this part of the egg industry. I eat eggs, so I'm definitely not making any moral judgements, but the process is brutal. I would definitely buy no-kill eggs when they come to the UK.
You can make moral judgements if you acknowledge that you violate your own morality rather than having illusions otherwise. It just shows how powerful are cultural momentum and habit and the path of least resistance.
Re: World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
#38Given that this article is from 2018 - does anyone know if this spread to other countries in the mean time? (And for bonus points: to the Netherlands?)
According to their website (which is also available in dutch [1]), outside of Germany they're only available in Paris and Jumbo supermarkets in the Netherlands.
Re: World's first no-kill eggs go on sale in Berlin (2018)
#392020 update: the eggs actually became available in supermarkets (REWE) for little extra cost, but are subject to regional availability.
Is it only in REWE or can we find them in Edeka/Aldi/Lidl? REWE is a little bit away from my location.
Rewe, Edeka, Penny, Marktkauf, Famila, but only select stores.