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Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Re: Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Post by rusk »

foxhop wrote: post #26
rusk wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> today’s standards “Today’s”? There has never been a better time for freedom of speech. You can pretty much say whatever you want and nobody is going to put you in jail or burn you at the stake. Indeed you have tools like never before with which to promulgate your message. Even if your remarks are racist, xenophobic, misogynistic or some other kind of bigoted you can still pretty say much whatever you like and there…

The workplace has become hostile against certain thought and has fully adopted another. You will get fired for speaking against the entrenched thought. This is exactly what was said in the above comment. If I said leave your politics and religion at the door and just do your job in a "safe space zoom call" or at a diversity committee, or at lunch, I'd be fired. The silent ones just want to do our jobs but increasingl…

Fair point. I’ve heard of this kind of thing but have never experienced it firsthand really in any of the places I’ve worked so surely there must be alternative places to work if you’re not ideologically aligned?

But if you go to work for someone you generally have to accept their outlook quietly or move on.

Re: Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Post by tabob »

What I get from this: The author decided to try and make an inciteful libertarian rant while smoking crystal meth.

Is there something I’m missing as to why this is on HN? Was this written by an ai, or is it’s relevance that it name drops Peter Thiel?

Re: Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Post by dash2 »

tabob wrote: post #32

What I get from this: The author decided to try and make an inciteful libertarian rant while smoking crystal meth. Is there something I’m missing as to why this is on HN? Was this written by an ai, or is it’s relevance that it name drops Peter Thiel?

The point is that it combines the responses from a survey of readers on "what they think that almost nobody agrees with".

Re: Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Post by sfkdjf9j3j »

rcruzeiro wrote: post #8

Not really sure of the value of this is? Unless I am missing something, this reads like it was written by an "edgy teenager". Perhaps I am just missing some context.

That's just how so-called "Rationalists" like to write. They have a lot of interesting ideas that are fun to learn about but the core community itself is basically a bunch of computer programmers who believe they can solve the worlds problems simply by thinking a lot and writing a blog post that uses a big metaphor.

Re: Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Post by dash2 »

NateEag wrote: post #29
gerikson wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The skepticism is included in RationalWiki.

I get that this is a joke, and I haven't spent much time on RationalWiki, but I feel compelled to point out that they aren't actually that skeptical. It seems to me to embody an unflinching, burning faith that using analytical tools and reason will always yield the right answers. The idea that the human mind might be too limited to understand everything seems like a foreign idea there. Ditto the idea that strict form…

This may be unfair. As (I think) the Slatestarcodex guy put it, rationalists are one of the few groups where "Chesterton's Fence"[1] is a sufficient two-word rebuttal to many arguments.

[1] https://wiki.lesswrong.com/wiki/Chesterton%27s_Fence

Re: Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Post by konjin »

sfkdjf9j3j wrote: post #35
rcruzeiro wrote: post #8

Not really sure of the value of this is? Unless I am missing something, this reads like it was written by an "edgy teenager". Perhaps I am just missing some context.

That's just how so-called "Rationalists" like to write. They have a lot of interesting ideas that are fun to learn about but the core community itself is basically a bunch of computer programmers who believe they can solve the worlds problems simply by thinking a lot and writing a blog post that uses a big metaphor.

Interesting people.

I hadn't seen anyone arguing misotheism as an actual description of reality and (possibly eventual) omnicide as the only moral position to take on life before I ran into them online.

Re: Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Post by amalcon »

foxhop wrote: post #26
rusk wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> today’s standards “Today’s”? There has never been a better time for freedom of speech. You can pretty much say whatever you want and nobody is going to put you in jail or burn you at the stake. Indeed you have tools like never before with which to promulgate your message. Even if your remarks are racist, xenophobic, misogynistic or some other kind of bigoted you can still pretty say much whatever you like and there…

The workplace has become hostile against certain thought and has fully adopted another. You will get fired for speaking against the entrenched thought. This is exactly what was said in the above comment. If I said leave your politics and religion at the door and just do your job in a "safe space zoom call" or at a diversity committee, or at lunch, I'd be fired. The silent ones just want to do our jobs but increasingl…

That's not new, though. It's just adopted a different school of thought than it used to (and not even universally). It wasn't that long ago that you could be fired for mentioning that you are not christian at the office christmas party.

Re: Manifesto of the Silent Minority

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Post by [deleted] »

foxhop wrote: post #26
rusk wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> today’s standards “Today’s”? There has never been a better time for freedom of speech. You can pretty much say whatever you want and nobody is going to put you in jail or burn you at the stake. Indeed you have tools like never before with which to promulgate your message. Even if your remarks are racist, xenophobic, misogynistic or some other kind of bigoted you can still pretty say much whatever you like and there…

The workplace has become hostile against certain thought and has fully adopted another. You will get fired for speaking against the entrenched thought. This is exactly what was said in the above comment. If I said leave your politics and religion at the door and just do your job in a "safe space zoom call" or at a diversity committee, or at lunch, I'd be fired. The silent ones just want to do our jobs but increasingl…

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