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Netflix also accumulates all of your watching habits and feeds it into AI while using their services.
Is that a bad thing if it helps you to find great new content?
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Netflix also accumulates all of your watching habits and feeds it into AI while using their services.
Is that a bad thing if it helps you to find great new content?
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#33There is a big sentiment in the comments that ads are per se a bad thing. I want to make a counter argument: ads drive innovation because they make expensive services possible for the masses. I have watched endless YouTube videos and learned a great many things. I haven’t paid a dime for it yet. Newspaper adoption in mass was achieved by the same mechanism. Ads drove the price for newspaper significantly down so the…
Do you think youtube algorithms optimize for you learning and becoming a better human or to maximize ad revenue? Based on the answer the knowledge you gained is on average either deep and meaningful or shallow, bordering entertainment value.
That is not to say you can’t find deep structured knowledge on youtube, but the proper way to support its creation is to directly pay for it. Next best thing is paying for youtube premium.
Imagine two youtubes, one ran by ads only and one exclusively for paid subscribers. Which one of these is more likely to have funny cat videos and which one deep, meaningful knowledge and why? In which case the interest of the platform is aligned with the interest of the user?
When overdone, ad business models incentivize mass creation of low quality entertainment which is what most of internet including news has become. In no way ads help democratize the access to valuable information.
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#34It's tiring having a finger waved at you for blocking advertisements. When we all know that our data of who we are and our actions is just as valuable as the ads we are forced to watch. The Internet has become an ad machine that throws a tantrum if anyone dares to block advertising or tracking (of yourself). YouTube was meant for sharing videos but now "influencers", many channel owners, and YouTube itself balk at an…
You can pay for YouTube premium and get rid of ads. If you spend a non trivial amount of time on YouTube it's well worth it, especially the family account. Don't want to be the product ? Pay for your services then - the money has to come from somewhere.
So ad blocking puts the user in a funny position. It let's them continue to look at things they don't value much. And I think content creaters looking for views probably would rather complain about ad blockers than give users an ultimatum that could result in them just going somewhere else.
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You can pay for YouTube premium and get rid of ads. If you spend a non trivial amount of time on YouTube it's well worth it, especially the family account. Don't want to be the product ? Pay for your services then - the money has to come from somewhere.
Oh, but I'm OK with paying. I paid for netflix, lastpass and zoom. I still pay for dynalist, audible or for having my own email address. However, I'm not OK with having a logged in google account that accumulates everything I do into their DB and AI while I use their services. Even when you pay, they still milk your private life. And they have proved time after time they cannot be trusted with it.
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6139018?co=GENIE....
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#38There is a big sentiment in the comments that ads are per se a bad thing. I want to make a counter argument: ads drive innovation because they make expensive services possible for the masses. I have watched endless YouTube videos and learned a great many things. I haven’t paid a dime for it yet. Newspaper adoption in mass was achieved by the same mechanism. Ads drove the price for newspaper significantly down so the…
Ads are not evil per se, overdoing them is. Do you think youtube algorithms optimize for you learning and becoming a better human or to maximize ad revenue? Based on the answer the knowledge you gained is on average either deep and meaningful or shallow, bordering entertainment value. That is not to say you can’t find deep structured knowledge on youtube, but the proper way to support its creation is to directly pay…
I’d argue the only reason subscription based platforms have a higher probability of offering quality is that the pay barrier creates a more filtered user base that prefers quality.
If a platform dependent on ad revenue had some other barrier to entry, like content only accessible to an audience that preferred that type of high quality content to low quality content, I don’t see ads having a negative effect.
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh, but I'm OK with paying. I paid for netflix, lastpass and zoom. I still pay for dynalist, audible or for having my own email address. However, I'm not OK with having a logged in google account that accumulates everything I do into their DB and AI while I use their services. Even when you pay, they still milk your private life. And they have proved time after time they cannot be trusted with it.
You can disable the the tracking on your account if you want with or without Youtube premium. https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6139018?co=GENIE....
I don't believe one second there is a way to opt out of Google tracking you. At best, you can lower the settings on how much it displays the informations it has on you.
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Oh, but I'm OK with paying. I paid for netflix, lastpass and zoom. I still pay for dynalist, audible or for having my own email address. However, I'm not OK with having a logged in google account that accumulates everything I do into their DB and AI while I use their services. Even when you pay, they still milk your private life. And they have proved time after time they cannot be trusted with it.
Netflix also accumulates all of your watching habits and feeds it into AI while using their services.
Netflix business is not to accumulate data on you and resell it, or to display ads.
Netflix was not part of the PRISM program.
Netflix is not Google.