I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
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Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#32I hope applications like Teams, Discord, and others that have iOS / iPadOS apps allow users to use those rather than electron versions.
I hope so too. I tried their Electron apps and they start on Apple Silicon but no window ever opens.
Simply being able to run the iOS versions would be great.
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#33I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
I suspect the two major differences are that vendors have confidence that 1) Apple will stick by this decision for quite a long time and 2) Apple will sell a significant number of units with this new architecture.
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#34I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
>What is the difference?
The fact that there won't be new x86 Macs in 5 years.
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#35I am really curious why the response to Apple Silicon is so prompt vs when Microsoft did WinRT or ARM versions nobody really cared. What is the difference? Was there some problem in compilation tool-chain or what?
M1 is the clear future for macOS, whilst WinRT/ARM was a non-committal side-hussle that may or may not have a niche future.
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#36Mostly I would just want Electron to disappear overnight.
If you don't want Electron apps, don't use them. It's not like they would exist without Electron.
The people who build Electron apps are, for the most part, people who wouldn't build an app otherwise.
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#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's mostly due to the fact that unlike Microsoft, Apple is doing a complete migration to ARM. The developers have to migrate to ARM because they cannot just tell users to buy x86 macs like they could do for windows
This sounds correct to my knowledge, but I can’t help but wonder if there’s a substantive difference between the Microsoft and Apple ARM transitions that’s not obvious to me.
One more thing is that the Apple chips actually optimized for the mac and perform better or equivalent to their Intel counterparts. Microsoft just used the Snapdragon mobile chips that had bad performance even in their own categories, forget desktops
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#38i don't recall such support when msft was launching arm based laptops. does anyone have insight to why this is so? is it a case of apple developer relations doing an outstanding job engaging with the community?
Its also been 5-6 years since. Arm support in the toolchains and libs are much better, and the chips are powerful enough to do testing on them.
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#39What M1 giveth, Electron taketh away. Sigh.
If only the issue was limited to Electron... I often feel like Electron is more a declaration of defeat, like: hey no matter where you look at, software bloat keeps eating the precious advances in power provided by hardware. So let's at least get some comfort and value out of that. (Electron does put multiplatform desktop development within reach of 100x more developers than Qt/etc)
Re: Electron 11.0 released with support for Apple Silicon
#40i don't recall such support when msft was launching arm based laptops. does anyone have insight to why this is so? is it a case of apple developer relations doing an outstanding job engaging with the community?
> apple developer relations Is there such a thing? Honest question, not snark - I've never heard of them doing any. Where/who?
Does WWDC count? Does selling a ludicrous number of devices to consumers which create a humongous market for developers count?