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‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by mistermann »

paxys wrote: post #24

Fits well with the current wave of authoritarianism/nationalism that has taken root all over the world. A free and open internet represents everything that a government that wishes complete control over its people would be afraid of.

> Fits well with the current wave of authoritarianism/nationalism that has taken root all over the world.

Autoritarianism often goes hand in hand with nationalism, but not always. In recent history, it is the non-nationalists who seem to be most pro-censorship, does it not?

Unfortunately, due to the extremely dynamic and high velocity nature of current times, this article wasn't able to get into the new flavor of micro-censorship - hopefully they address that in the future.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by na85 »

vinni2 wrote: post #28

> ISPs in Norway are imposing what the study calls “extremely aggressive” blocking across a broader range of content, including human rights websites like Human Rights Watch and online dating sites like Match.com. I have no trouble accessing hrw.org and match.com in Norway. I wonder is it specific to some ISPs? I also couldn’t find any law that was passed to block certain pornogrpahic websites in Wikipedia [1] and I…

>I don’t know where else to look.

Does Norway not publish its corpus of law online? Even in Canada where our government motto is "yesterday's technology today" we have websites where you can look up all legislation and read it.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by lolbrels »

cbozeman wrote: post #23
thursday0987 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hate speech IS violence. speech is not violence, no matter how many times this lie is repeated.

I love how you're being downvoted for what is obviously and objectively true. I'd wager that there's a not insignificant group of Americans that actually think hate speech is illegal (hint: it isn't).

Pfff - our laws are trampled all the time and don't exist for the Elites. Legality will soon become like objectivity or fact and just be lost completely to whatever they dictate is truth.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by mancerayder »

Cue conversation about overreach of Facebook and Twitter. Cue defense of freedom of speech in response to the incitement to violence argument. Cue downvotes of said defenses and upvotes of 'more should be done.'

Cue hand wringing about how we elites can deal with the armies of the naive, the prone to conspiracy theories, viral false information needing correction.

Cue dystopia.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by disown »

29athrowaway wrote: post #14

Politicians look at Xi Jinping, the guy that has complete control over China for life, and say: "man, I want to have as much power as that guy".

Right on cue, a propagandist tries to turn this into a china-relate issue. What's with you people? Almost every other thread that has nothing to do with china, you people show up?

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by mistermann »

cbozeman wrote: post #22
bendbro wrote: post #7

It is extremely dangerous to our democracy to have unlimited free speech. 1. Freedom of speech isn't freedom from consequences. 2. Corporations aren't the government, so the first amendment doesn't apply. 3. Haven't your heard of "fire in a movie theater"? 4. Hate speech IS violence. 5. Reading disinformation from un-check-marked, non-fact-checked sources is anti scientific. Since all scientists have check marks, we…

Posts like these are dangerous because there's simply not enough people that realize you're being facetious.

I think plenty of people realized, and that's why it's [flagged].

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by codemac »

A measure of this community will be how successfully we can manage a conversation about this topic.

My bet - we will fail.

I'm completely lost on how we should approach this for various social media like fb or twitter where the platform is ubiquitous.

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by AnimalMuppet »

ogre_magi wrote: post #27
chrisco255 wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This year I've heard that both speech and silence is violence...so you can't win either way with some people.

Unless you say exactly what they want ;)

Which might work, until "what they want" moves. (They also get you in trouble for things you said in the past...)

Re: ‘Extremely aggressive’ internet censorship spreads in the world’s democracies

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Post by varispeed »

The problem is that we didn't teach people about manipulation techniques because that was governments' favourite tool to control the masses. Now that anybody can reach anyone with any information, bad actors use these techniques to control people to their advantage. Governments' are now in an awkward position - ramp up education in these areas and forever give up a tool that worked for ages, or censor the information in hope that bad actors will not influence the public. It seems like governments still want to manipulate people, so censorship in their mind is the only way out of this. Unfortunately it is like having an aching tooth and taking pain killers hoping it will pass instead of going to dentist. My only hope that in the end this will make politics more honest and people will learn how they are being exploited. I don't accept that someone should have a power over what I can or cannot read and preventing me from forming my own opinions.
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