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Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by StavrosK »

1986 wrote: post #20

I know quite a lot of folks here are fed up with moves away from native apps and towards Electron-wrapped web apps (and often for totally valid reasons) but it's been a godsend for making Linux a usable daily driver OS. IMO if you're doing eg web dev work in a GSuite / Slack / Figma / etc organization, it's never been a better time to try desktop Linux!

Why do you need web apps wrapped in their own window, though? Just open a browser.

Relatedly, Electron is a problem because desktop apps nowadays require a huge browser just to display a window, not because web apps are packaged in a browser to get slightly better desktop integration.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by ben-schaaf »

StavrosK wrote: post #31
1986 wrote: post #20

I know quite a lot of folks here are fed up with moves away from native apps and towards Electron-wrapped web apps (and often for totally valid reasons) but it's been a godsend for making Linux a usable daily driver OS. IMO if you're doing eg web dev work in a GSuite / Slack / Figma / etc organization, it's never been a better time to try desktop Linux!

Why do you need web apps wrapped in their own window, though? Just open a browser. Relatedly, Electron is a problem because desktop apps nowadays require a huge browser just to display a window, not because web apps are packaged in a browser to get slightly better desktop integration.

Unfortunately you have things like Discord that require access to native APIs in order to properly function (eg. Push to talk).

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

StavrosK wrote: post #31
1986 wrote: post #20

I know quite a lot of folks here are fed up with moves away from native apps and towards Electron-wrapped web apps (and often for totally valid reasons) but it's been a godsend for making Linux a usable daily driver OS. IMO if you're doing eg web dev work in a GSuite / Slack / Figma / etc organization, it's never been a better time to try desktop Linux!

Why do you need web apps wrapped in their own window, though? Just open a browser. Relatedly, Electron is a problem because desktop apps nowadays require a huge browser just to display a window, not because web apps are packaged in a browser to get slightly better desktop integration.

I like Slack and similar having their own icon and entry in the alt-tab switcher. Absent ubiquitous PWA support, electron is sort of the least bad alternative.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by [deleted] »

1986 wrote: post #20

I know quite a lot of folks here are fed up with moves away from native apps and towards Electron-wrapped web apps (and often for totally valid reasons) but it's been a godsend for making Linux a usable daily driver OS. IMO if you're doing eg web dev work in a GSuite / Slack / Figma / etc organization, it's never been a better time to try desktop Linux!

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Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by StavrosK »

ajkjk wrote: post #16

None of these reasons have anything to do with user experience -- no wonder none of these reasons have earned Linux any market share outside of picky developers.

* Astronomically lower probability of catching a virus.

* No bullshit forced updates when the OS feels like it.

* No phoning home with you being unable to launch an app when your manufacturer's server is slow.

* No shuffling about trying to install drivers for a thousand components before your computer is usable.

How's that?

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by StavrosK »

fiddlerwoaroof wrote: post #35
StavrosK wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you need web apps wrapped in their own window, though? Just open a browser. Relatedly, Electron is a problem because desktop apps nowadays require a huge browser just to display a window, not because web apps are packaged in a browser to get slightly better desktop integration.

I like Slack and similar having their own icon and entry in the alt-tab switcher. Absent ubiquitous PWA support, electron is sort of the least bad alternative.

Ah, fair point. Electron is a good fit for web apps that would otherwise live in a browser, I agree.

Re: Reasons to prefer Linux over Windows (2014)

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Post by 29athrowaway »

I really hated the intro. There are less confrontational ways of making that point across.

Then the points being made did not resonate with my own reasons for using Linux.

Microsoft loves Linux and Open source, in paper, but the reason you are not using Linux right now is mostly due to Microsoft.

MS Office, the defacto Office suite, runs only on macOS and Windows, and the OOXML standard was created with obfuscation in mind.

Microsoft bought Corel, and shortly after Corel Office dropped its Linux release.

Microsoft lobbies governments so that they adopt MS Office. Some of those goverments are starving impoverished countries that could rather use that money for humanitarian reasons.

OpenGL was the target of a FUD campaign that scared game developers forcing them to adopt DirectX.

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