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Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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A free, decentralised and open network with an enforced code of conduct? I cannot reconcile these 2 concepts.

I'm guessing the code of conduct primarily concerns the software development process?

Doesn't seem so:

> If a community member engages in .... up to and including expulsion from all Funkwhale spaces

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#32

I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

What is it with americans and their meaningless code of conducts?

> The registered office is located at 92, rue Consolat, 13001 Marseille, France

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#33
post #5

Didn't we do this and wasn't it called Napster?

Yea, imagine what kind of Napster we could build today, with ~20 years advancement in bandwidth and storage. This looks super interesting. EDIT: Never mind. It's another "pipe curl into bash" type of app, since nobody knows how to package software any more.

> It's another "pipe curl into bash" type of app, since nobody knows how to package software any more.

According to https://docs.funkwhale.audio/installation/ , the curl|bash is only one of the ways to install it. They also provide an ansible role, install instructions on Debian and Arch without the curl|bash, an AUR package, a NixOS package, a Yunohost package, and a Docker image

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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post #15

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I don't understand your confusion. Are you under the impression that the very act of sharing music online is illegal?

Yes, maybe that’s where my confusion sits. If I take a bunch of music and put together a playlist and post it on, say YouTube or my own site, that is perfectly fine?

Yes, as long the musician licensed his/her work in a way that let you do it. In some cases you also allowed to reuse that music in your work.

Take a look at:

https://creativecommons.org/about/cclicenses/ https://www.jamendo.com/start http://ccmixter.org/

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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I know this kind of thing might not be very popular on HN, but I like their anti-meritocracy statement: https://funkwhale.audio/en_US/code-of-conduct

Yeah, I don't like it. It says making wrong jokes is an offense. On the plus side, it doesn't yet say that failure to report someone else for making wrong jokes is an offense.

To include some important information you left out:

It says that sexual harassment is bad and that racism is bad, and using jokes to "ironically" do things like that is also bad.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#36
post #6

Honest question, how is this legal? It looks as if there is the ability to share your music online. Can someone explain the difference between this and say Napster, Limewire, Kaza, etc? Rather than storing it locally, it’s just online... or am I missing something here?

For example one of nodes :

  We are are a curated Funkwhale music server promoting libre audio - usually released under Creative Commons licenses and through netlabels.
https://open.audio

So this should answer your question. It's legal because it's not illegal.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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post #13

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> We have an ethical responsibility to refuse to work on software that will negatively impact the well-being of other people. Such as creating a platform for people to listen to music for free by sharing it with others without paying the artist?

You can also say it benefits the artist because it makes it easier to listen to them, which incentivises people to give them money to support them. This is more or less the entire model of Bandcamp.

Right, and Bandcamp is probably the most pro-artist of the major music platforms, I would say. The project also benefits the artist but creating an infrastructure not controlled by Youtube or Soundcloud.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#38
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, maybe that’s where my confusion sits. If I take a bunch of music and put together a playlist and post it on, say YouTube or my own site, that is perfectly fine?

Yes, as long the musician licensed his/her work in a way that let you do it. In some cases you also allowed to reuse that music in your work. Take a look at: https://creativecommons.org/about/cclicenses/ https://www.jamendo.com/start http://ccmixter.org/

I’m not talking music that is under a CC license - I’m talking lil bow wow and the spice girls.

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I don't like it. It says making wrong jokes is an offense. On the plus side, it doesn't yet say that failure to report someone else for making wrong jokes is an offense.

To include some important information you left out: It says that sexual harassment is bad and that racism is bad, and using jokes to "ironically" do things like that is also bad.

(deleted, I was overreacting a bit)

Re: Funkwhale – Decentralized, self-hosted music server

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post #16
post #6

Honest question, how is this legal? It looks as if there is the ability to share your music online. Can someone explain the difference between this and say Napster, Limewire, Kaza, etc? Rather than storing it locally, it’s just online... or am I missing something here?

Lots of confusion in this question. Where do I even start ... First of all, what do you mean by "this"? You mention Napster and Limewire. These are things. Things cannot be illegal. Actions can be illegal. A certain action is illegal if there is a paragraph in the applicable jurisdiction that forbids it. It might be illegal to manufacture, own, fake, destroy or distribute a thing. But a thing on its own cannot be ill…

Uhh, is youtube-dl a thing?
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