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Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

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Post by educated_idiot »

_y5hn wrote: post #28
educated_idiot wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough, that's a good point. My spouse is a PM and when I asked them to use this, they actually ended up using all quads except for Bottom Right (Low Impact, High Urgency). So your points stands, a competent team will correctly prioritise.

What people do you have? Every owner will put it in top right corner. The reason is organizational neglect and lack of due process. Just happened again some weeks ago, and due to org, was sadly necessary.

Haha, take the other people out of the equation. This is more about self-prioritization. How your team/ org works/ prioritises depends on a variety of factors and I do not think any single framework will serve all those. This is not even attempting to solve that need.

Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

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Post by educated_idiot »

marapuru wrote: post #29
educated_idiot wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's designed to update only when you let go, o/w it's unnecessary compute and repainting. If that's annoying, I can enable during the drag too.

I think it's an important one for UX. People pay attention to what they see and if the number doesn't change or changes wrongly, they hesitate to drop it in that sector.

Fair enough, that's an easy fix. Will update. Thanks for the advice

Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

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Post by _y5hn »

educated_idiot wrote: post #31
_y5hn wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What people do you have? Every owner will put it in top right corner. The reason is organizational neglect and lack of due process. Just happened again some weeks ago, and due to org, was sadly necessary.

Haha, take the other people out of the equation. This is more about self-prioritization. How your team/ org works/ prioritises depends on a variety of factors and I do not think any single framework will serve all those. This is not even attempting to solve that need.

It's a neat idea, though I too started over-engineering planning for myself. Over time a simple text-list works well for me. Quadrants is more a communication and collaboration tool. Looks like nice work though.

Besides, if someone asks, they always get response.

Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

#34

Post by thaumasiotes »

educated_idiot wrote: post #2

An app to visualize and organize your tasks in an Impact/ Urgency matrix. The app currently uses local storage only, no accounts yet. Would love some feedback :)

Is there a metric for the ease of completing a task? This could be relevant in two ways.

First, task impact per unit of effort is technically a better measure of how worthwhile it is to complete the task than absolute task impact is.

Second, I recall some writing in the personal-finance genre which said that people often make more progress getting out of debt by paying their debts in order from small to large, ignoring the interest rate. This is more expensive than paying debts in order of high to low interest rate, but it may give you more of a feeling of progress when one of your debts disappears, even though that debt wasn't, in reality, causing much of a problem. By the time you get to more difficult debts, you're on a roll.

This suggests that there is probably a place for configuring the priority scheme; absolute impact, impact per unit effort, and absolute effort are all reasonable choices.

Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

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Post by educated_idiot »

johnchristopher wrote: post #35

Nice. What are the buttons on the right supposed to do ? I click but nothing happens (I expected a create new task dialog).

Argh, that means I did a bad job at the UI. The "things" on the right are not supposed to be buttons, but cards that get updated when you add tasks. There is only one button, the last one which says "completed" which clears out your completed tasks.

Can I ask you what I could do to make them NOT look like buttons or what made you think they were buttons? :)

Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

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Post by educated_idiot »

educated_idiot wrote: post #36
johnchristopher wrote: post #35

Nice. What are the buttons on the right supposed to do ? I click but nothing happens (I expected a create new task dialog).

Argh, that means I did a bad job at the UI. The "things" on the right are not supposed to be buttons, but cards that get updated when you add tasks. There is only one button, the last one which says "completed" which clears out your completed tasks. Can I ask you what I could do to make them NOT look like buttons or what made you think they were buttons? :)

FYI You click on the empty graph to create tasks in the 2D grid.

Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

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Post by educated_idiot »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #34
educated_idiot wrote: post #2

An app to visualize and organize your tasks in an Impact/ Urgency matrix. The app currently uses local storage only, no accounts yet. Would love some feedback :)

Is there a metric for the ease of completing a task? This could be relevant in two ways. First, task impact per unit of effort is technically a better measure of how worthwhile it is to complete the task than absolute task impact is. Second, I recall some writing in the personal-finance genre which said that people often make more progress getting out of debt by paying their debts in order from small to large, ignori…

Yep, IIUC what you are talking about is similar to the question others have raised about an "Effort" dimension. To keep the daily or slightly more long term planning simple, I opted to not consider those dimensions. You raise a good point and I need to give it some thought. It has to be "complete" enough that you can prioritize properly, but easy enough that you can use it all the time. The finance example is a good one, but I think you could boil all the costs down to a single term for that case. (essentially it's just money lost). Just like the user makes a choice there, the expectation here is that the user will formulate an impact-effort code in their mind and add a task.

Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

#39

Post by chrisma0 »

Awesome! My initial thought was to use this for value-based requirements/story prioritization. There the axes would be business value and effort.

Any chance you'll allow customizing the axes and enable sharing of diagrams? (Maybe all info could be stored as part of the URL?)

Re: Show HN: Baller ToDo – a no-list todo app

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Post by educated_idiot »

chrisma0 wrote: post #39

Awesome! My initial thought was to use this for value-based requirements/story prioritization. There the axes would be business value and effort. Any chance you'll allow customizing the axes and enable sharing of diagrams? (Maybe all info could be stored as part of the URL?)

Sure. I think the axis names is easy enough. I need to start working on the sharing/ saving of accounts coz a bunch of folks have requested that now
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