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Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by function_seven »

blhack wrote: post #19

To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want: Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power? NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator…

Twitter is not a utility. It is not common infrastructure. The Internet is, and I would not be okay with Internet access being terminated over political disagreements. But individual services? Sure, why not?

For those who argue that Twitter is a de facto common platform, well these decisions are moving them away from that role. The more they exercise their own prerogatives in removing content, the more they're no longer some sort of vital communication platform.

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Post by chrisco255 »

slondr wrote: post #21
blhack wrote: post #19

To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want: Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power? NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator…

Electrical power shouldn't be privately controlled.

There's nothing wrong with it being privately controlled. It was privately invented and developed, after all.

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Post by bleepblorp »

damagednoob wrote: post #5
codegladiator wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And suddenly twitter is a leftist corporation. Frankly I don't know whats the better way for twitter, its one of those doomed if you do, doomed if not.

"Suddenly". You have to work really hard to make sure your timeline includes centre leaning views, never mind right leaning.

Unless Twitter has changed something recently, there are follow buttons on the account pages for @cnn, @cnni, @reuters, @ap, @bbcworld, @cbcnews, @dwnews, etc. Provided you're using chronological mode (which you should for many, many reasons), tweets from these sources will appear in your timeline.

If you do not consider those news outlets adequately centerist, that may be an indication that your personal Overton window is somewhat skewed.

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Post by striking »

blhack wrote: post #19

To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want: Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power? NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator…

Not only are utilities regulated fairly closely by the government as a result of being common infrastructure, the NY Post has its own newspaper and website and drives plenty of traffic that way.

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Post by dylan604 »

recursive wrote: post #9
damagednoob wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Suddenly". You have to work really hard to make sure your timeline includes centre leaning views, never mind right leaning.

"centre leaning" Could you draw a diagram of this?

ahhh, you are only thinking of a 2D diagram. Take your circle with a line splitting through the middle. Now, rotate it so that it is a sphere. Tilt it at 23 degress, and you'll have a center leaning image.

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Post by jlmorton »

blhack wrote: post #19

To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want: Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power? NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator…

Of course not, specifically because electrical utilities are granted de facto monopolies, and for that reason are either heavily regulated, or else publicly owned and operated, and because electricity is a modern safety requirement.

That is wildly, incomparably different than a single social media website.

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Post by untog »

thebeefytaco wrote: post #28
ummonk wrote: post #11

I mean, isn't it good when they uniformly apply policies against sharing illicitly obtained private content?

If the laptop became property of the repair shop, how would that be illicitly obtained?

That presumes the story about the laptop is true. And a lot of details in the story don’t quite make sense.

But still, how is Twitter even supposed to judge whether a story is trustworthy? No clue.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by edmundsauto »

quacked wrote: post #6

The Post publishes a lot of disreputable trash that's outright false or unproven, but more and more often, it seems that they release primary sources of information (especially videos) much earlier than other news outlets will, if the other news outlets do so at all. There have been multiple times when I've seen an insane video of something happening spreading around Twitter or WorldStar or some other "raw video" agg…

Is the "time to publication" a useful metric, when the cost is accuracy? Once something incorrect is published, it has a lot more weight than a retraction/correction.

Re: Twitter still hasn't unlocked the New York Post's account

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Post by cortesoft »

blhack wrote: post #19

To the people constantly saying that twitter is a private company and should be allowed to do whatever they want: Would you support the same idea around electrical power? If the power company providing the power to the office at the NyPost decided that they had a political disagreement with them, would it be okay to just cut off their power? NyPost could just make their own power, of course, by purchasing a generator…

Power companies are regulated monopolies. There are no competitors.

Twitter is in no way even close to the only way to publish something. It is no where near as difficult to publish on a different platform than it is to generate your own power.

If an ISP was cutting off the NyPost, I would have issues with that. If they had their domain name seized, I would have an issue with that. If other ISPs blocked network routes to their site, I would have issues with that.

I don't have an issue with Twitter blocking them. It just isn't the same.

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