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Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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> a whole range of instruments going from I know but I simply didn't have the vocabulary to distinguish them by name or type, so emphasised their common size and appearance. Thanks for the comprhensive answer, and never even heard of Morphine, ta for that!

You're welcome. For some other really nice saxophone: Anything by Steps Ahead, Grover Washington's record 'mister magic'. If you want more drop me a line by email, I'll do some digging in my collection. To give an idea of the range of saxophones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopranino_saxophone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XqwC1NmtG4 to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subcontrabass_saxophone https://www.youtube.co…

Wow.

If I close my eyes while listening to the sopranino I would swear I was hearing a flute.

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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I grew up learning the alto sax (also occasionally subbed for tenor or even bari in my small school) in the late 80s and 90s. It was impossible to not have been influenced by Kenny G, somewhat unfortunately, as a tangible path to commercial success. Still SMH... I mean, talented guy, but complete Muzak, really.

I still have my 1987 Yamaha alto with Vandoren mouthpiece and pull it out every couple years. Remarkable piece of technology, really.

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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On one hand, it seems harder to learn, on the other: clarinet is the king of large jumps. The shit the clarinet soloists that come to my orchestra squeak out would be impossible to do that cleanly on my instrument (bassoon), even though large jumps on bassoon is considered easy. And it isn't just a Martin Fröst thing. I played recently with Christoffer Sundqvist, Emil jonasson and Harri Mäki (as well as with Fröst on…

Yes, I think you are 100% right. On the sax large jumps are super hard because there are so many modes of resonance to choose from and they all 'work' to some extent. If the instrument already has a strong preference for one such mode you can hit it flawlessly no matter where you come from. > 1 octave jumps on the sax were always hard for me no matter how much I practiced especially when going up I kept getting the w…

Talking about sound effects and saxophone: https://youtu.be/KrFT5BcATFo

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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Dinant is beautiful city, famous for Sax, but well worth the visit. Adolphe's house is a small museum, well organized.

If you do visit also get a Couque de Dinant, which I understand is the worlds hardest biscuit.

To be eaten soaked in coffee or tea.

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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Also makes it stupid difficult to do clean sounding smooth octave jumps on a clarinet.

On one hand, it seems harder to learn, on the other: clarinet is the king of large jumps. The shit the clarinet soloists that come to my orchestra squeak out would be impossible to do that cleanly on my instrument (bassoon), even though large jumps on bassoon is considered easy. And it isn't just a Martin Fröst thing. I played recently with Christoffer Sundqvist, Emil jonasson and Harri Mäki (as well as with Fröst on…

Oh yea, once you learn how to do it, it sounds real fuckin' good

It just takes literal years to learn how to do something on a clarinet that is just pushing a button on most other instruments

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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I grew up learning the alto sax (also occasionally subbed for tenor or even bari in my small school) in the late 80s and 90s. It was impossible to not have been influenced by Kenny G, somewhat unfortunately, as a tangible path to commercial success. Still SMH... I mean, talented guy, but complete Muzak, really. I still have my 1987 Yamaha alto with Vandoren mouthpiece and pull it out every couple years. Remarkable pi…

Pat Metheney doesn't agree with you about Kenny G's talent http://www.jazzoasis.com/methenyonkennyg.htm

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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Fun fact: a cone open on one end (saxophone) supports all harmonics, as does a cylinder open on both ends (flute). A cylinder open on one end (clarinet) only supports odd harmonics, which is why a clarinet sounds "rounded" and overblows into a twelfth, rather than an octave (as on former two).

Interesting observation is that sax having a conical bore and using a reed to induce the sound resembles an oboe. Indeed, the fingering is nearly the same. Yet, the brass resonates in a much brighter and louder way. The reed and the mouthpiece are of clarinet design, except of conical kind. A true hybrid, ingenious synthesis. Oboe's sound is pliable, thanks to the double reed, player's embouchure, and the richer spec…

I keep describing the soprano sax as a "loud bluesey oboe". It's my second favourite sax to play.

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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Also, note that technically a Saxophone is a woodwind , not brass. I played the saxophone for half my life and it is still my favorite instrument sound wise, even though I can no longer play it due to a lung issue. Also, it is quite close to the human voice which makes it very nice to interact with singing voices. Fantastic invention, and modern music really would not be the same without it. Try the solos in Baker St…

A question please, "and it is still my favorite instrument sound wise". Can the sax in general be said to have one sound? I knew 2 sax players at school, their instruments were much the same in size and appearance, excepting a little ornamentation on one. One was very smooth, it was a great sound. The other was much harsher, almost braying[0]. They seemed to be played with much the same high level of skill, so why th…

the same could be said for most instruments. Changing the reed, embouchure shape, breath quality all change the sound. Same with a guitar, if you change the strings, playing style, pick material, a lot of different sounds can come out of one instrument.

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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I grew up learning the alto sax (also occasionally subbed for tenor or even bari in my small school) in the late 80s and 90s. It was impossible to not have been influenced by Kenny G, somewhat unfortunately, as a tangible path to commercial success. Still SMH... I mean, talented guy, but complete Muzak, really. I still have my 1987 Yamaha alto with Vandoren mouthpiece and pull it out every couple years. Remarkable pi…

Pat Metheney doesn't agree with you about Kenny G's talent http://www.jazzoasis.com/methenyonkennyg.htm

That's still one of the best takedowns ever. As a huge Pat Metheny fan and a Kenny G hater I couldn't have agreed more with him.

Re: Adolphe Sax, Inventor of the Saxophone

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Yes, I think you are 100% right. On the sax large jumps are super hard because there are so many modes of resonance to choose from and they all 'work' to some extent. If the instrument already has a strong preference for one such mode you can hit it flawlessly no matter where you come from. > 1 octave jumps on the sax were always hard for me no matter how much I practiced especially when going up I kept getting the w…

Talking about sound effects and saxophone: https://youtu.be/KrFT5BcATFo

Wild! I could never do that on purpose. But by accident, any time ;)
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