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Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Apart from the clock I think its not too bad.

This is awful: https://i.imgur.com/gTf25am.png

Someone should dig out the relevant source code for you to fix it.

I'm sure a good PR will be well received :-)

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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> This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Either way it's just the default they're changing, one good thing about grouping in Plasma is it lets you exclude certain applications so you can exclude your PDF viewer. Alot of other environments give an all or nothing approach.

> Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Could you give an argument for why someone would want it?

Because it takes up less real estate and I know what app I’m looking for. I don’t have separate windows for all my Firefox tabs even though you could consider them to belong to 5 or 6 different categories.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Always loved kde for ease of customization. Wish it had better support for auto tiling

You probably know this already, but you can use KDE with your choice of WM, allowing you to swap out kwin for i3/sway or whatever else floats your boat/gives you tiling. Edit: Spelling

Only on X11 though, and you can only use X11 window managers.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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>when you open several windows with the same application (like when you open several LibreOffice documents), the Task Manager will group them together. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Why don't the designers of 21st-century desktop environments understand that my 3 PDF files have nothing to do with one another? The same goes for my terminals, my text buffers, my web pages.... Why group things that are in…

KDE is quite good at customizing this stuff. You can pin documents and windows to Workspace or Activity. It even remembers this config between sessions.

Are you sure KDE is that good at customizing stuff?

I hated the fact that it displays a huge speaker icon in the middle of the screen whenever adjusting volume, I know I adjust volume, I don't need to see it in the middle of the screen every time, this is a productivity computer, not a television.

The only way I found to disable that behavior was to change some javascript code somewhere within KDE. But everytime I update archlinux, it was restored and I had to apply my change again!

There's no normal setting or config file to turn it off...

I'm using Cinnamon now though, that one is much better at just being exactly how it should be (= KDE 3.5-ish) and not changing in annoying ways all the time. Or running undesired, not easy to disable, CPU hogging "nepomuk" and other oddly named things in the background. Or being too integrated with other software like PIM stuff, while all I want is a good window manager.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Does it now support using two monitors with different scaling factors? With display calibration? This is what is holding me back at the moment: heterogenous scaling is only available in wayland, but color calibration (colord-kde) only works in X11. I think I'll give Gnome another try this time around.

I had the same issue with my 14,0" WQHD (2560x1440) laptop screen and my external monitor. I wanted to scale up only the laptop's screen so that I can read the text on it, but then my external monitor got scaled too large.

After using it for months like that I solved this by simply setting the resolution on the laptop to 1920x1080, and scaling to 1. I felt really stupid after that I did not do this sooner.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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>when you open several windows with the same application (like when you open several LibreOffice documents), the Task Manager will group them together. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Why don't the designers of 21st-century desktop environments understand that my 3 PDF files have nothing to do with one another? The same goes for my terminals, my text buffers, my web pages.... Why group things that are in…

It's just one more setting for the already extremely configurable Task Manager. For new users, it changes a default (the option to group is already there, with an extra toggle that activates it only when the task bar is full). I think the "cycle window on click" is a new option.

KDE is all about giving lots of options to users, but at the same time they aren't afraid to experiment and change its defaults to try to appeal to first-time users. In this case, window groups is a nice default that avoids scrolling or too-small buttons.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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>when you open several windows with the same application (like when you open several LibreOffice documents), the Task Manager will group them together. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Why don't the designers of 21st-century desktop environments understand that my 3 PDF files have nothing to do with one another? The same goes for my terminals, my text buffers, my web pages.... Why group things that are in…

I believe you're meant to be using virtual desktop/workspaces to group tasks (which each have their own task bar), and then within a workspace they get grouped.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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>when you open several windows with the same application (like when you open several LibreOffice documents), the Task Manager will group them together. This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Why don't the designers of 21st-century desktop environments understand that my 3 PDF files have nothing to do with one another? The same goes for my terminals, my text buffers, my web pages.... Why group things that are in…

> This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Either way it's just the default they're changing, one good thing about grouping in Plasma is it lets you exclude certain applications so you can exclude your PDF viewer. Alot of other environments give an all or nothing approach.

There maybe some people who want this but they are not the marority. A task and an application are unrelated things. A task most likely spans one/several browser tabs + a couple of documents in different apps.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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This is awful: https://i.imgur.com/gTf25am.png

Someone should dig out the relevant source code for you to fix it. I'm sure a good PR will be well received :-)

The UI code for the system tray can be found here: https://invent.kde.org/plasma/plasma-workspace/-/tree/master... and the HiddenItemsView.qml is the part show on the screenshot. MR are always welcome.
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