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Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:25 PM UTC

mtogo wrote: post #18

thecoffman wrote: post #16

Since the failure of Wave, does it seem to anyone else the Google has been copying rather than innovating nowadays? Buzz was a copy of Twitter, this is a copy of Groupon, +1 is a copy of Facebook's like button etc... I'd like to see more innovation and less parroting coming out of them. I don't want my search results to be social - I want them to be relevant and spam free. If they really feel like going "social" is t…

Google has always copied and almost never innovated. They've done so well because they can build better technical applications than their competitors (e.g. Gmail). That strategy doesn't work with social, though. They can rip off an idea and build a more technically sound product, but social needs more than just a good product, and google can't deliver.

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Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by yanw » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:31 PM UTC

thecoffman wrote: post #16

Since the failure of Wave, does it seem to anyone else the Google has been copying rather than innovating nowadays? Buzz was a copy of Twitter, this is a copy of Groupon, +1 is a copy of Facebook's like button etc... I'd like to see more innovation and less parroting coming out of them. I don't want my search results to be social - I want them to be relevant and spam free. If they really feel like going "social" is t…

Copying is allowed! it's a big part of innovating.

And to quote Eric Schmidt: "The last new idea in computer science was public key encryption in 1975"

It's the implementation of an idea that sets it apart.

Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by f1gm3nt » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:34 PM UTC

Goodbye Groupon?

This is going to get interesting. I can see this getting pushed to Android phones, with the option of getting a notification for one shot deals within you location. Pretty sure the Groupon guys are rethinking the offer they turned down.

Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by thankuz » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:42 PM UTC

bakhlawa wrote: post #22

thankuz wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Instant Search was pretty innovative, but one could probably say that it came about due to Twitter and real-time.

I hope this is a joke. Instant Search is a UX nightmare with the screen changing / morphing with every keystroke. Now if you meant Google Suggest, I'd have no argument, but on any new browser install, one of the first items is to switch Instant Search off.

Agreed. Meant the concept, not necessarily the execution. Definitely see the potential, given they continue to improve it.

Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by davidreiss666 » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:47 PM UTC

yanw wrote: post #32

thecoffman wrote: post #16

Since the failure of Wave, does it seem to anyone else the Google has been copying rather than innovating nowadays? Buzz was a copy of Twitter, this is a copy of Groupon, +1 is a copy of Facebook's like button etc... I'd like to see more innovation and less parroting coming out of them. I don't want my search results to be social - I want them to be relevant and spam free. If they really feel like going "social" is t…

Copying is allowed! it's a big part of innovating. And to quote Eric Schmidt: "The last new idea in computer science was public key encryption in 1975" It's the implementation of an idea that sets it apart.

Yes, go back to Doug Engelbart's Mother of all Demos. There isn't much truly new out here.

Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:50 PM UTC

ignifero wrote: post #14

Sorry, Groupon, it's not like you didn't have a buyout chance. (does this sound coming from the future?)

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Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by 27182818284 » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:52 PM UTC

Lots of inertia to overcome. Google Offers has six options to choose from compared to Groupon's long list of cities and presence in India. (http://www.sosasta.com/startup.php)

Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by patrickaljord » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:56 PM UTC

bakhlawa wrote: post #22

thankuz wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Instant Search was pretty innovative, but one could probably say that it came about due to Twitter and real-time.

I hope this is a joke. Instant Search is a UX nightmare with the screen changing / morphing with every keystroke. Now if you meant Google Suggest, I'd have no argument, but on any new browser install, one of the first items is to switch Instant Search off.

I love instant search UX, whenever I use a browser that is not supported it just seems like I'm getting a super slow experience. Maybe you should give it a longer try.

Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by jordan0day » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:57 PM UTC

rednum wrote: post #7

The back button in my browser is broken on this site. I know it doesn't matter for the product itself, but it's one of these little annoying things that leave me with slightly negative - instead of totally neutral - impression.

Yeah, I was going to respond to the question in the title with "A broken back button, apparently."

Re: What will Google offer?

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Post by sandipc » Thu, Apr 21, 2011, 7:57 PM UTC

f1gm3nt wrote: post #33

Goodbye Groupon? This is going to get interesting. I can see this getting pushed to Android phones, with the option of getting a notification for one shot deals within you location. Pretty sure the Groupon guys are rethinking the offer they turned down.

Yeah, this would seem to work really well with the recent Latitude auto-checkin support on Android