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A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by aidenn0 »

redmorphium wrote: post #12
microcolonel wrote: post #3

Semi-related: anyone here, like me, not find automated dishwashers very useful? To me it seems to take nearly the same amount of soap exposure, and time at the sink, to wash dishes by hand. Maybe if I needed gloves, I'd get frustrated with the smell your hands take on from dishgloves, but honestly washing dishes (particularly dishes that aren't precious) is pretty easy.

a lot of people tend to think you need to pre-rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher. no, you don't: in fact, this can remove the substrate that's needed for the detergent to be most effective. most of my dishes, which I have a lot of: finish eating/drinking, straight in, no sink stage.

Maybe because when people get their first dishwasher, they are single and it takes days to get a full load? When food hardens overnight they work a lot less well.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by briefcomment »

Xcelerate wrote: post #22

I find that recent models of dishwashers don’t work nearly as well as older models. They don’t heat up enough to dry water off of plastic, and the enzyme based detergents don’t seem to clean as well as the old phosphate detergents. Also, the dishwasher in our current apartment (a cheap Whirlpool) often leaves a wet dog smell on the glasses, and we can’t figure out where it comes from or how to get rid of it. Apparent…

Maybe it doesn't dry enough to remove all moisture, and there's mold/mildew in some of the rubber areas, like what happens in washers.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by aidenn0 »

fitbitq wrote: post #10

Tip for the pro when buying a dishwasher. Make sure the distance between so lower and upper drawer is big enought that the "washing wheels" can still spin if you have your plates inside. My new Whirlpool dishwasher is nearly useless.

Most Bosch washers have adjustable racks. It's great.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

neckardt wrote: post #29
Scoundreller wrote: post #20

I wish they invented the dual side-by-side dishwasher. I want separate dirty and clean units. I’m tired of using the sink or shelves as a buffer. Just pull from the clean unit and push into the dirty unit and rotate which is which. Voilà, dramatically less handling.

> I wish they invented the dual side-by-side dishwasher. Have you considered buying two dish washers? I don't think this needs an invention.

> I don't think this needs an invention

Cabinets with integrated dishwashers would be something... Look like cabinets from outside, but with racks inside and once filled with dirty dishes, seal and wash everything. Not a bad idea.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by gowld »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #34
neckardt wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I wish they invented the dual side-by-side dishwasher. Have you considered buying two dish washers? I don't think this needs an invention.

> I don't think this needs an invention Cabinets with integrated dishwashers would be something... Look like cabinets from outside, but with racks inside and once filled with dirty dishes, seal and wash everything. Not a bad idea.

That already exists. Cabinets are just doors and finishes; the cabinet maker can add them to your dishwasher.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by tommymachine »

Xcelerate wrote: post #22

I find that recent models of dishwashers don’t work nearly as well as older models. They don’t heat up enough to dry water off of plastic, and the enzyme based detergents don’t seem to clean as well as the old phosphate detergents. Also, the dishwasher in our current apartment (a cheap Whirlpool) often leaves a wet dog smell on the glasses, and we can’t figure out where it comes from or how to get rid of it. Apparent…

The regulations on the wash cycles, including water volume, time, energy, and detergents, are very restrictive. Older units were not subject to the same regulations.

For example, due to laws in California most commercial dish detergents won’t contain TSP (trisodium phosphate). I’ve been adding a bit of powdered TSP with the detergent pod to each load and it seems to have improved the results.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by airstrike »

Xcelerate wrote: post #22

I find that recent models of dishwashers don’t work nearly as well as older models. They don’t heat up enough to dry water off of plastic, and the enzyme based detergents don’t seem to clean as well as the old phosphate detergents. Also, the dishwasher in our current apartment (a cheap Whirlpool) often leaves a wet dog smell on the glasses, and we can’t figure out where it comes from or how to get rid of it. Apparent…

Are you pre-rinsing your dishes before loading them in the dishwasher?

Have you run a "cleaning" cycle? Here's one guide on google, not sure if it works https://www.today.com/series/how-often-should-you/how-clean-...

Do you open your dishwasher as soon as the cycle is done? For best results, according to my layman's opinion, make sure to open it and even pull out the racks / give the top rack a nice shake / check for any water left in recipients

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by evancordell »

Xcelerate wrote: post #22

I find that recent models of dishwashers don’t work nearly as well as older models. They don’t heat up enough to dry water off of plastic, and the enzyme based detergents don’t seem to clean as well as the old phosphate detergents. Also, the dishwasher in our current apartment (a cheap Whirlpool) often leaves a wet dog smell on the glasses, and we can’t figure out where it comes from or how to get rid of it. Apparent…

I have the exact same problem and have gone down the exact same rabbit hole with no real solution.

Fully disassembling (essentially uninstalling), cleaning, and sanitizing everything that touches water seems to fix it for a few cycles, but it slowly comes back over time.

The problem has followed me across states, houses, and dishwashers. I’m assuming it’s modern enzymatic detergent like you suggest.

Slightly more frustrating is that not everyone seems to smell it, or not as strongly as I seem to. It’s like dishwashers everywhere are gaslighting me.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by gav »

Scoundreller wrote: post #20

I wish they invented the dual side-by-side dishwasher. I want separate dirty and clean units. I’m tired of using the sink or shelves as a buffer. Just pull from the clean unit and push into the dirty unit and rotate which is which. Voilà, dramatically less handling.

Have you looked at a double drawer dishwasher: https://www.fisherpaykel.com/us/dishwashing/all-dishwashers/...

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Post by gowld »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #14
HenryKissinger wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a single person I can wash my dishes in less than a minute. Glass, plate no. 1, plate no. 2, bowl, fork, knife, no more than a few seconds each.

Yes if you eat microwaved crap. Try cooking sometimes.

Or if you eat fresh foods.
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