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Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by neya »

Fuck the guy who wanted to suck up to the management in some stupid meeting projecting estimated revenue out of this to ask for a raise later because he "contributed to a revenue increase" to the company.

There's absolutely no after thought to this decision - If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it, showing ads is unacceptable, no matter what the context or reasoning is.

This is one of the reasons I paid the premium and went for a Sony instead. They haven't done anything stupid like this yet, and I don't use smart features on the TV anyway, so I don't plan on updating the software either. Hopefully they face backlash over this stupidity and this doesn't go on to become a norm.

That would be really, really terrible.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by sschueller »

bleepblorp wrote: post #3

Just as the 's' in 'IoT' stands for 'security', the 'f' in 'IoT' stands for 'fairness to users.' Never buy a consumer product that expects an Internet connection.

I had to blacklist my wifi controlled air purifier on my router as it was sending data every few seconds to Amazon's DCs.

If they want to collect air quality stats from my location they should pay me for that data.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by okr »

rini17 wrote: post #7

When I wrote about phones "Mass market is demanding products nonsensically thin to the detriment of other properties, because it was told to. It could be told otherwise." I got laughed off. That the market isn't going to serve my fancy preferences. But this is the same thing, the market is repeatedly told to ask for smart devices, even when dumb TV is all the users need.

Seems like, there are a lot of opinions out there. I often hear, what i can do on my phone i also want to see on tv. May it be playing music, movies, series, etc.. So a seamless integration from the start without another device like apple tv is a plus.

Same happens to screen in cars.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by silon42 »

tjungblut wrote: post #11

It's even worse when the ad server is down: it will completely lock-up your TV and you can't even watch it anymore. In the best case it makes it excruciatingly slow. That's why I turned off networking on my SmartTV already a year or two ago. No ads, works as a TV should.

+1 have Samsung TV(s), never connected to internet, never will.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by silon42 »

silon42 wrote: post #34
tjungblut wrote: post #11

It's even worse when the ad server is down: it will completely lock-up your TV and you can't even watch it anymore. In the best case it makes it excruciatingly slow. That's why I turned off networking on my SmartTV already a year or two ago. No ads, works as a TV should.

+1 have Samsung TV(s), never connected to internet, never will.

I just fear they will start doing Internet via TV box via HDMI... it will be time to cancel that too, or use it via VGA converter.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by YuccaGloriosa »

pmontra wrote: post #17
pfundstein wrote: post #9

Here's wondering if these ads can be blocked simply with a DNS based blocker like PiHole.

Yes, until they'll add a data SIM to the TVs. Then what, some shielding on the case? And what if the TV won't boot unless online with its own server? I think: monitor + DVB decoder + Raspberry PI.

This is why I see that the push for 5G as some kind of magic everyone is (supposedly) asking for, to make their lives better, is a fraud.

It will be the end of privacy completely. EVERYTHING always on and serving ads, collecting telemetry and logging everything. There will be no way to shut them down.

My TV has been relieved of all internet connection privileges, and it's staying that way.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by gowthamgts12 »

when i was looking to buy an oled tv, i never even considered samsung because of this problem. I went with lg c9. ads are there but very very minimal compared to samsung tvs.

you'll be thrilled how much data these "smart" tvs collect when you plug it to your local DNS server.

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by foepys »

neya wrote: post #31

Fuck the guy who wanted to suck up to the management in some stupid meeting projecting estimated revenue out of this to ask for a raise later because he "contributed to a revenue increase" to the company. There's absolutely no after thought to this decision - If I paid 1000s of dollars for an "idiot box" that's supposed to reproduce faithfully the signal that I pass it, showing ads is unacceptable, no matter what the…

I also bought a Sony Android TV for this reason. Then last month Google pushed an update for the "Android TV Home" app and now there are many people complaining about ads on the home screen [1].

This is not really Sony's fault but rather Google's but it still leaves a bad taste in my mouth…

https://9to5google.com/2020/08/18/android-tv-homescreen-ads-...

Re: Samsung TV owners complain about increasingly obtrusive ads

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Post by avian »

chris_wot wrote: post #20
pmontra wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, until they'll add a data SIM to the TVs. Then what, some shielding on the case? And what if the TV won't boot unless online with its own server? I think: monitor + DVB decoder + Raspberry PI.

If they add a data sim, I’m going to work out how to use it!

You will be disappointed to find out that SIMs that you get with IoT devices these days often only connect you to a private network without access to the wider Internet. At least if the point of the SIM was to just distribute firmware updates/download ads/talk to the cloud services of the vendor.
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