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Re: 2020 Bundles

#31

Post by baddox »

Swizec wrote: post #23
javajosh wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The screen is the thing. Broadcast TV to CRT displays was never important; the human eye and ear glued to a glowing rectangle of changing light and sound, that was the thing. Now, the screens are everywhere, on the wall, in our pockets, and can show us anything anytime. It has revolutionized entertainment to the point where each individual can mine his or her own seem of addictive content that shuts off the critical…

Broadcast vs on-demand is crucial. There’s a huge difference between having a captive audience that has no choice and producing content people choose to consume.

I think that's less of a huge difference when a small number of platforms dominate online media and aggressively use algorithms to determine or strongly influence what content people see. Yes, you can still absolutely find beautiful niche content on YouTube, and I value that a ton, but YouTube still has immense control over people's viewing in aggregate. It's a little bit like traditional broadcast TV if there were a billion channels but after every 3 minutes of viewing the TV chose which channel to flip you to unless you were constantly diligent about manually choosing what you want to watch.

Re: 2020 Bundles

#32

Post by majormajor »

lacker wrote: post #27
ErrantX wrote: post #5

> sports, meanwhile, is well on its way to being the only reason to keep the traditional bundle. Semi-side note but I feel this will go soon too. Amazon are starting to show sports, inclusive with Prime Video, in the UK.

The biggest reason for delay in the US is that the NFL signed a deal with DirecTV that goes from 2014-2022, and they signed it before the size of the streaming market was apparent. So in baseball, you can get all games streamed for $60 a year. The NBA, you can get all games streamed for $60 a year. But for the NFL, most people can't get all NFL games streamed. You can get a DirecTV subscription, for something like $8…

You can only do that for MLB, NBA, etc, if you're not in a the local area of the team you want to watch. You get blacked out if you are.

The local sports rights for non-NFL teams are tied up in long, long deals in many markets, and separately for each team. It will take a while to unwind all that.

Re: 2020 Bundles

#33

Post by edmundsauto »

lacker wrote: post #27
ErrantX wrote: post #5

> sports, meanwhile, is well on its way to being the only reason to keep the traditional bundle. Semi-side note but I feel this will go soon too. Amazon are starting to show sports, inclusive with Prime Video, in the UK.

The biggest reason for delay in the US is that the NFL signed a deal with DirecTV that goes from 2014-2022, and they signed it before the size of the streaming market was apparent. So in baseball, you can get all games streamed for $60 a year. The NBA, you can get all games streamed for $60 a year. But for the NFL, most people can't get all NFL games streamed. You can get a DirecTV subscription, for something like $8…

Correction - MLB.tv is usually $125/year, and it does not include any of your local team's games if you live in the area. If you like following out-of-region teams, it's a great deal. If you want to follow your local team, you have to pony up a similar amount for a separate package that lets you stream local games.

Re: 2020 Bundles

#34

Post by [deleted] »

baddox wrote: post #31
Swizec wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Broadcast vs on-demand is crucial. There’s a huge difference between having a captive audience that has no choice and producing content people choose to consume.

I think that's less of a huge difference when a small number of platforms dominate online media and aggressively use algorithms to determine or strongly influence what content people see. Yes, you can still absolutely find beautiful niche content on YouTube, and I value that a ton , but YouTube still has immense control over people's viewing in aggregate. It's a little bit like traditional broadcast TV if there were…

[deleted]

Re: 2020 Bundles

#35

Post by 1123581321 »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #2

I would have liked an Apple Services bundle where I can pick and choose X number of services for a bundled price where the incentive would be tied to: the more (number of) services one chooses, more discount they'd get. Instead what we got is some random collection of services packaged by Apple being called Individual vs Family vs Premium that either won't exactly have Services that I need or have extras that I won't…

That’s just called a discount.

Re: 2020 Bundles

#36

Post by javajosh »

Swizec wrote: post #23
javajosh wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The screen is the thing. Broadcast TV to CRT displays was never important; the human eye and ear glued to a glowing rectangle of changing light and sound, that was the thing. Now, the screens are everywhere, on the wall, in our pockets, and can show us anything anytime. It has revolutionized entertainment to the point where each individual can mine his or her own seem of addictive content that shuts off the critical…

Broadcast vs on-demand is crucial. There’s a huge difference between having a captive audience that has no choice and producing content people choose to consume.

Crucial to what? To making content "better", meaning more potent, more addictive, more alluring than real life?

I'd argue that broadcast TV was an okay middle ground, because if you were addicted you were a couch potato. Now, we are all couch potatoes but without the couch, and without the social opprobrium, or even the opposite!, the world is a generally worse place. I mean, I love 3blue1brown, but is he worth the societal cost?

Re: 2020 Bundles

#38

Post by arrosenberg »

gordon_freeman wrote: post #6
ErrantX wrote: post #5

> sports, meanwhile, is well on its way to being the only reason to keep the traditional bundle. Semi-side note but I feel this will go soon too. Amazon are starting to show sports, inclusive with Prime Video, in the UK.

I got Peacock Premium free with my Xfinity internet connection which has ~175 LIVE English Premier League matches streaming in USA. No need to now subscribe to NBC Sports!

You didn't get it for free. Comcast owns NBC and bundled something into your internet subscription that costs them nothing incremental.

Re: 2020 Bundles

#39

Post by Swizec »

javajosh wrote: post #36
Swizec wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Broadcast vs on-demand is crucial. There’s a huge difference between having a captive audience that has no choice and producing content people choose to consume.

Crucial to what? To making content "better", meaning more potent, more addictive, more alluring than real life? I'd argue that broadcast TV was an okay middle ground, because if you were addicted you were a couch potato. Now, we are all couch potatoes but without the couch, and without the social opprobrium, or even the opposite!, the world is a generally worse place. I mean, I love 3blue1brown, but is he worth the s…

I mean, Plato did always complain that writing makes people stupid and kids these days are ruining society because they can’t speak well or remember anything.

And I think books were ruining kids these days in the 1600’s

In 1800’s it was populist flashy newspapers with clickbait headlines

1900’s was radio

1950’s was TV

Now it’s social media

There’s always something. People who want to escape their lives will find a way. The solution is to make the world better, not to gripe about coping strategies.

Re: 2020 Bundles

#40

Post by adeelk93 »

zubairk wrote: post #14
charliemil4 wrote: post #12

> The problem is that Apple’s financing programs — both the one pictured above, and also the iPhone Upgrade Program — continue to be funded by 3rd-parties; Apple is making it easier to buy an iPhone, but is still focused on getting its money right away. And, as long as it sticks with this approach, its Apple One bundle feels more like a money-grab, and less like a strategic driver of the business. To me, I see this a…

surprisingly, the apple card has ended up being a subprime card ( https://www.businessinsider.com/apple-card-reportedly-approv... ) and they unveiled the credit steps program to approve more low credit score customers, which is definitely not the customer demo i anticipated flocking to the card

I suspect it’s due to the “daily cash” aspect of the card
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