My wife pointed out that in South African English, which comes from British you don't pronounce the final "r" in words after a vowel.
You Talkin’ to Me? The Unruly History of New York English
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#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
No way, there are all kinds of super next level evolutions of nyc accents going on, you just gotta go outside of the financial and commercial centers
Well don’t leave us hangin
In some cases as other socioeconomic and ethnic groups have moved into New York they have picked up features of traditional New York speech.
The most prominent example I can think of is Cardi B. She has a heavy Bronx accent, and will say “talk” and “walk” in the old New York manner of “tawlk” and “wawlk”.
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#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
I honestly had no idea that wasn’t universal. Never thought twice about it.
Some people outside of NYC think it's rude the first time they hear it! No "please" or "may I" in sight.
In South Africa we will often say "hello" and "how are you?" before ordering, no exaggeration.
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#34Another fun article:
> Talk Like a Texan: How Texans Use “Down,” “Out,” “Over,” and “Up”
https://www.texasmonthly.com/being-texan/being-texan-preposi...
Thread with 131 posts : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16327812
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#35Yeah, regional American accents are dying, unfortunately. I think they added a lot of color to dialog in the U.S. My own grandfather grew up in the Appalachians during the Great Depression and has to this day the thickest accent and the funniest idioms. But with each generation after him the accent has worn off more and more. When you go to NYC you kinda hope to run into these old school New Yorkers and have them tur…
Thats interesting. I’ve heard the same about the UK. Here in Germany the regional accents go further into becoming whole dialects, people tend to keep them while learning a standard German in school. Strangely I’ve been told that in New Zealand the accents are getting stronger among young people. I dropped my Australian accent subconsciously when I moved to Europe years ago as it wasn’t practical and hard to be understood when speaking English with people, it appears sometimes after a few beers or when I’m with other Australians.
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#36I was driving through south Brooklyn a few years back and passed a few teenage boys on bikes. We heard them talking to each other and, if I didn't see their faces I would have thought we were listening to a broadcast from the early previous century. New Yawk English, in all of its glorious preservation is alive and well in some pockets of the city.
Growing up in New Jersey I've learned to subdue my own inflections after realizing most other American professionals seem to view any hint of the accent as low class.
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#37Neither hacking nor news... Peculiar...
HNs guidelines are “anything that gratifies intellectual curiosity”.
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#38> In dissecting the exaggerated New York accents of Bugs Bunny When I was a little kid in the 60s, I remember someone interviewing Mel Blanc (voice of Bugs). He couldn’t decide whether a Bronx or Brooklyn accent sounded tougher, so he chose elements of both for Bugs’ voice. Having grown up in CT, it was the first time I realized there were different regional accents even among the different NYC boroughs.
The UK, famously, has this too. There are numerous accents present which have very small and clear boundaries.
You can hear different accents after walking only a mile or two away to the next village, or the other half of a city.
Oddly fascinating, and something I really miss now I've moved to a different country - a country which to my ears sounds very much like there are only a couple of accents.
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#39Neither hacking nor news... Peculiar...
I sometimes would also prefer that the guidelines would be enforced with a more tech/science heavy focus but I also appreciate how big of an effort it is to moderate HN.
Nevertheless you can still go back to the old more tech heavy frontpage (AFAIK it uses a previous HN ranking algorithm?):
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#40My grandfather had a very thick NY accent, where 33rd & First was toity toid n foist. He raised a family in the east side then sunny side queens. I imagine the day will soon be here where no one will have the experience of asking a New Yorker for directions and not understanding parts of it due to the accent.