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Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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But it’s not simple. It’s nothing like a “simple” VM.

It's a headless VM that runs on Hyper-V

Once Microsoft finishes the work on DXGI for Linux, it won't even have to be headless.

It's also very paravirtualized, which is why HyperV enlightenments are required for WSL2 guest.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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But it’s not simple. It’s nothing like a “simple” VM.

It's a headless VM that runs on Hyper-V

That's a gross over-generalization: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/wsl-2-where-is-it-and-w....

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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Supposedly windows 10X will be that thing. I have to say I find the settings / control panel dichotomy issue overblown. I rarely need to go into control panel anymore, and pretty much never without it being a clickthrough from the new settings app.

I primarily care about how terrible the new settings window is and that it's a step back from the Control Panel in too many ways to ignore. What's with all the wasteful white space? What's with the inability to multi-task settings?

Hate it as well. The obvious reason is the effort to have a unified interface that will support both pointer-based and touch-based devices.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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This sounds promising, something closer to OSX would give apple competition for devs like myself that want a linux based system and a fluffy "it-just-works" gui I switched from macOS to Linux. GNOME and others are pretty good these days. I did try Windows + WSL2 out of curiosity, but my brain is just fundamentally incompatible with non-unix systems. Moreover, I was really annoyed that when Windows installed drivers a…

Looking at the AMD and nVidia software, I see it surfacing a lot of hardware-/vendor-specific options and I don't see how it could be done any differently. Then there's Realtek, where I've never seen their software add anything useful that doesn't already exist in system settings. But then again, there are drivers like those for the Xonar DX or other soundcards where a bunch of useful features and configuration optio…

Realtek stuff installs Nahimic 3D virtual positioning and a different denoiser and beamformer, which are controllable from their driver.

Technically, they could make these features separate and configurable from Windows sound effects options for the recording or playback device...

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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>Windows 10 is on a path to becoming a hybrid Windows/Linux system This sounds promising, something closer to OSX would give apple competition for devs like myself that want a linux based system and a fluffy "it-just-works" gui

So what's wrong with Linux if you want a Linux based system? I don't remember the last time I got a Linux desktop which didn't "just work"; of course I try to avoid exotic hardware components, but the truth is that you can run into driver problems and issues too when running operating systems you pay money for, like Windows.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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For me, the show stopper is lack of device forwarding with WSL and WSL2 (HyperV in general) on non-Server versions. Even the Workstation edition does not support it.

It will be less of a problem once DXGI support lands since it's mostly required for AI, DSP and video processing work for me, as they require rather direct access to the GPU.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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It's a headless VM that runs on Hyper-V

That's a gross over-generalization: https://www.techrepublic.com/article/wsl-2-where-is-it-and-w... .

Sure, it has some nice integrations, but I don't see how this article is in contradiction with what I've said. (To be clear, I didn't mean it as a critique, I like Hyper-V)

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

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>Windows 10 is on a path to becoming a hybrid Windows/Linux system This sounds promising, something closer to OSX would give apple competition for devs like myself that want a linux based system and a fluffy "it-just-works" gui

So what's wrong with Linux if you want a Linux based system? I don't remember the last time I got a Linux desktop which didn't "just work"; of course I try to avoid exotic hardware components, but the truth is that you can run into driver problems and issues too when running operating systems you pay money for, like Windows.

I would say that these days the exotic components are the ones that DO work on Linux, and various common components just don't, or work "on paper" but with debilitating bugs.

Re: Microsoft submits Linux kernel patches to enable complete Hyper-V on Linux

#39

>Windows 10 is on a path to becoming a hybrid Windows/Linux system This sounds promising, something closer to OSX would give apple competition for devs like myself that want a linux based system and a fluffy "it-just-works" gui

So what's wrong with Linux if you want a Linux based system? I don't remember the last time I got a Linux desktop which didn't "just work"; of course I try to avoid exotic hardware components, but the truth is that you can run into driver problems and issues too when running operating systems you pay money for, like Windows.

I agree, if you just want to use Linux a classic Thinkpad/XPS will play well with it
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