I thought App developers would be testing against the beta version? I don't really understand the problem. There's public beta's, it's out of beta, and will go to the public tomorrow, apps will continue to work.
Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
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Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some apps (Pokemon Go) just crash on launch on 14 without updates.
IOS 14 for developers was available for a long time. Also this is a norm with all SDKs, engines, tools etc - new versions always have new bugs that will be fixed in updates. Especially considering that only a small percent usually updates to new version of OS in first few days.
So 15% on the first day, with 1.5 billion active iOS devices. Thats a pretty high number of potential unsattisfied user experience.
Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#33No one said you HAVE to update your app to iOS14 on day 1. Also, the beta versions have been out for months. If you’re not ready, it’s your fault.
Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#34The profane language really isn’t necessary. It would be helpful to understand what portion of apps are negatively impacted by the new iOS version. If it’s insignificant, there’s really no strong incentive for Apple to specifically set a launch date with developers. It’s besides the point by the profanity just weakens the argument. Presumably the iOS beta has been out long enough that developers could have pushed out…
Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some apps (Pokemon Go) just crash on launch on 14 without updates.
Surely the developers had the 3 month beta period to identify these issues, and ship fixes, right? As far as I understand it, it's possible to ship fixes for a new iOS version before that iOS version actually launches, and indeed that's the idea of the beta period.
Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#36The profane language really isn’t necessary. It would be helpful to understand what portion of apps are negatively impacted by the new iOS version. If it’s insignificant, there’s really no strong incentive for Apple to specifically set a launch date with developers. It’s besides the point by the profanity just weakens the argument. Presumably the iOS beta has been out long enough that developers could have pushed out…
Except that they used to do it a week later every year? And that there is no reason to release it tomorrow, like new hardware that ships with that pre-installed?
> Presumably the iOS beta has been out long enough that developers could have pushed out an update if their app seriously breaks with the update.
You can’t push out an update for the new OS except using the blessed toolchain that Apple released today. That’s what we’re annoyed about, not that the beta period was too short.
Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#37Web Web web, fuck native apps.
Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#38Why is this an issue? Apps built with the old SDK will still work on iOS 14, and you can continue to submit apps built with the old SDK for a while. Nothing says your app _has_ to be built with the new SDK on day 1.
Some apps look broken or are actually broken on iOS14.
Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Surely the developers had the 3 month beta period to identify these issues, and ship fixes, right? As far as I understand it, it's possible to ship fixes for a new iOS version before that iOS version actually launches, and indeed that's the idea of the beta period.
> it's possible to ship fixes for a new iOS version before that iOS version actually launches No it isn't. Apple doesn't permit code linking against the latest SDK to be submitted until the SDK goes "GM". That happened today.
Re: Why is Apple acting like an asshole?
#40What patches are required for apps to work on iOS 14?