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Who invented the lightbulb?

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Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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>While Edison’s contribution to the lightbulb was significant, he did not “invent” the lightbulb. At most he put the last piece into place..... So he did invent it. Being the first that puts stuff together to get a working result is exactly what everyone means if they say someone invented something. That it builds on existing inventions is the norm.

No, the article makes it clear that he "invented" the first commercially viable light bulb, not the first light bulb, period.

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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Related: the Pleasanton fire department has the oldest still functioning lightbulb. Apparently it was manufactured in the late 1890's, and has been in service with the fire department since 1901. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centennial_Light

Not the oldest still functioning light. But the oldest in normal use - there are older bulbs in museums that are turned on for special occasions (by experts doing their best to ensure it won't burn out). This bulb is installed and used as a bulb. (though mostly it is there as a historical element - modern bulbs produce more light and would have replaced it if there wasn't a historical reason to keep it around)

Many vacuum tubes from the 1920s are also still functioning. They end up being one of the most reliable parts of early radios. Transistors from the 50s - 70s meanwhile are having big problems..

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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If questions like this become political within a US-specific persepctive, they can have an element of nationalism when considered with a more global perspective. Many people in the UK know the story of UK-based Joseph Swan developing his own bulb, patenting it, setting up a company and selling it, supplying homes and businesses such as The Savoy, and then a US marketer called Edison later coming along and taking cred…

Usually who invented something depends on fine distinctions of how you define that thing and just how many obscure things you know of during the time period it was invented.

It's generally "known" that the Altair was the first personal computer. However, from reading Wikipedia, I found that the first microprocessor based PC seems to have been a French system a couple years before the Altair:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micral

On the other hand, relaxing the criteria might mean that wasn't the first either.

The Kenbak-1 didn't have a microprocessor, but was arguably a personal computer:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenbak-1

Perhaps this is a better choice for the first personal computer since it was a little earlier and more ancestral to modern x86, but it was also so expensive that it was not anything an ordinary person could have owned:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datapoint_2200

Information from:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_personal_computers

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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If questions like this become political within a US-specific persepctive, they can have an element of nationalism when considered with a more global perspective. Many people in the UK know the story of UK-based Joseph Swan developing his own bulb, patenting it, setting up a company and selling it, supplying homes and businesses such as The Savoy, and then a US marketer called Edison later coming along and taking cred…

Bill Bryson's book Made in America , although mainly about language (US v British English), also deals with many false and/or disputed claims about who invented what. On the language side, it also points out that many "Americanisms", oft-derided by certain sorts of English people, are actually nothing of the sort, but rather original English retained in American usage. An entertaining and informatie read, in my opini…

"Soccer" is a good example of an Americanism that's not.

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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post #30

>While Edison’s contribution to the lightbulb was significant, he did not “invent” the lightbulb. At most he put the last piece into place..... So he did invent it. Being the first that puts stuff together to get a working result is exactly what everyone means if they say someone invented something. That it builds on existing inventions is the norm.

No, the article makes it clear that he "invented" the first commercially viable light bulb, not the first light bulb, period.

That's what an inventor does. He puts together something functional and usable. If someone tried before with limited success hes not considered the inventor. The plane wasn't invented by the people who died jumping off of things.

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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post #30

>While Edison’s contribution to the lightbulb was significant, he did not “invent” the lightbulb. At most he put the last piece into place..... So he did invent it. Being the first that puts stuff together to get a working result is exactly what everyone means if they say someone invented something. That it builds on existing inventions is the norm.

On that basis, Apple invented the smartphone, and Zoom probably invented video conferencing.

Being the one to make a version of an existing thing that's good enough to actually use regularly, and developing a supporting infrastructure, is important, but isn't really invention.

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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If questions like this become political within a US-specific persepctive, they can have an element of nationalism when considered with a more global perspective. Many people in the UK know the story of UK-based Joseph Swan developing his own bulb, patenting it, setting up a company and selling it, supplying homes and businesses such as The Savoy, and then a US marketer called Edison later coming along and taking cred…

Here in Canada, we're fond of reminding ourselves how Alexander Graham Bell was "Canadian". He was actually a Scottish immigrant, and while he did a lot of his early research and work here, it was when he moved to Boston to become a professor that the bulk of the work was done. From a business point of view, the US was also a larger market. He did come back to Canada in his final years and is buried in Nova Scotia, though.

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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Politicians before: "Vote for me, we will do xyz, create a great future and change history!" Politicians today: "Vote for me, we will do xyz and change history ...books"

... History is if anything far less politically influenced today than at any prior point in, er, history. The whole idea that a historian might be appropriately critical of the country in which they live is rather new, as is the idea that a historian shouldn't be in the business of censoring history for a public audience.

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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post #30

>While Edison’s contribution to the lightbulb was significant, he did not “invent” the lightbulb. At most he put the last piece into place..... So he did invent it. Being the first that puts stuff together to get a working result is exactly what everyone means if they say someone invented something. That it builds on existing inventions is the norm.

On that basis, Apple invented the smartphone, and Zoom probably invented video conferencing. Being the one to make a version of an existing thing that's good enough to actually use regularly, and developing a supporting infrastructure, is important, but isn't really invention.

Obviously not, smartphones existed before Apple made one and video conferencing existed before zoom.

Re: Who invented the lightbulb?

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If questions like this become political within a US-specific persepctive, they can have an element of nationalism when considered with a more global perspective. Many people in the UK know the story of UK-based Joseph Swan developing his own bulb, patenting it, setting up a company and selling it, supplying homes and businesses such as The Savoy, and then a US marketer called Edison later coming along and taking cred…

Something similar happened with the discovery of the AIDS virus.

It was entirely discovered by Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Luc Montagnier in France, when in the US, Robert Gallo of NIH was given all the credit.

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