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Re: Firebug

#33

Does anyone know a trick how to get Firebug or similar running directly on iOS? I know that you can connect the iOS device to your Mac and run the developer tools on the big machine. What I’m looking for is having Firebug directly running on the mobile device.

Liriliri's Eruda is in the "or similar" category and works directly in mobile browsers: https://github.com/liriliri/eruda With the caveat that if you want to use it on arbitrary websites, you need to be able to inject the script somehow, e.g. using a bookmarklet, which may not be possible in all browsers.

EDIT: Discussion 4 months ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22968079 , where nxrabl shared the tip of editing an existing bookmark with the javascript code to get it to work in Safari on iOS.

Re: Firebug

#34
Firebug and or Chrome's similar dev tool is how I design websites for a living. Everything can be changed live in the browser. I start with a bootstrap template change its html/css accordingly and after save it in my html or css files. Just don't refresh the browser though there is a way to have it saved directly to your html file without leaving the browser.

Re: Firebug

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Confused. I thought Firebug is no longer needed because the functionality is part of Firefox developer tools, which have been always visible in Firefox for years (at least in many Linux distros, maybe that's not a Mozilla default?). The site mentions Firefox Developer Edition. What is that? A quick search seems to indicate that it's just one version ahead of Beta, what was called Aurora in the past. Certainly if you…

> The site mentions Firefox Developer Edition. What is that? A quick search seems to indicate that it's just one version ahead of Beta, what was called Aurora in the past. > Certainly if you want to test new features that's good. But what is the benefit for general Web development? See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8583747 In short, separate profile, quicker access to new developer tools/new web standard imple…

Thanks for this, this should be the top comment.

It's nice to praise Firebug - it's awesome and I agree with all the praise - but none of the praise explains / points to this awesome FF Developer Edition which up until this comment I had never heard of.

Re: Firebug

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post #14

Confused. I thought Firebug is no longer needed because the functionality is part of Firefox developer tools, which have been always visible in Firefox for years (at least in many Linux distros, maybe that's not a Mozilla default?). The site mentions Firefox Developer Edition. What is that? A quick search seems to indicate that it's just one version ahead of Beta, what was called Aurora in the past. Certainly if you…

On the same computer I use the developer edition for work and regular for personal. Makes it really easy to keep profile, bookmarks, etc separate. Also the dev tools have a neat neon dark color scheme.

Re: Firebug

#38

I never understood why mozilla decided to implement their own inferior and laggier version of developer tools when firebug existed.

In what way(s) do you find it inferior?

If you log the contents of an object with firebug and then modify the object later in your script the firebug output does not change. But do the same thing with Firefox and the contents of the object will change.

To preserve the object as it was when debugged you have to either copy it or log all the specific properties you're interested in rather than the object as a whole.

Re: Firebug

#40
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Is this archaeology corner?

No. But once in a while, I want to remind us some bit of history. Hopefully inspire new developers, just like how I got the inspirations about old stuff when I first joined HN.

Fair enough.

I remember first discovering Firebug and being wowed by it, back when most browsers only offered you "View Source" as a way of looking under the bonnet.

I just wondered why someone had submitted a 4 year old blog post announcing the demise of Firebug, seeing as every browser now has it built-in.

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